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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 2:51 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		My brother-in-law had one done last week. Wishing the best for both of you.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 4:08 AM   
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Status: online 		I got both knees done at once in Feb 2003. Was in the hospital for a week and a long term care facility 3 more weeks. By the middle of May I was driving myself around. Went on that year to have a gall bladder operation in August and a laminectomy in November. Do your physical therapy after the knee jobs or they will really get stiff.

By the time BLW saw me in January 2004 and Hobbsy in April, I was so stiff I could hardly move. But I eventually got over it.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 4:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone had rotator cuff surgery besides me? I had that done Nov. 9th and man it's a long recovery. Three full months or more of PT. Getting any sleep is the hardest thing since the surgery. Have to lay on my back mostly but even then the shoulder starts aching.

Lots of old timers here! Wishing all the gang a Merry Christmas ~

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 5:01 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 12:30 PM   
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I have a new saito FG17 and I am having problems with it.  It runs for about five minutes then quits running.  I have sent it back twice, but Horizon says it bench tests fine.  I am running it inverted with a 14X7 3 blade MAS and a Keleo exhaust.  They bench test it upright with the stock exhaust and a 2 blade 14x8.  Anyone running this engine with a Keleo exhaust having this problem?  Also I got it back from them and the pickup was loose and could be slide from side to side.  Frustrated with saito as this is my first one.

Buzz do you get the australian edition of airborne magazine over there?? fnq refers to a brian winch article re the r50.Saito have rapidly updated and changed a lot of stuff on their smaller gas engines and there is a good one in that forum(gas engines fg20)

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/17/2012 1:11 PM  1 votes
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Status: online 		Ernie, that was the seven months I referred to above, I tore my left bicep loose and 75% of my rotator cuff. last Feb. It was a seven month recovery, on Sept 4th the Dr. released me with no restrictions. I rode the Harley the next day. Since it was my left arm I can't blame it on starting Saitos.
Here is my arm all betta. I want to replace this home made Hall effect sensor with one of C&H's pretty red ones.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 12:52 AM   
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I want to replace this home made Hall effect sensor with one of C&H's pretty red ones.



You'll also need the magnet ring to bring ther gap between the magnet/sensor into spec. The adjustable ring will also make timing set-up so much easier.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 1:24 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 2:35 AM  1 votes
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 2:38 AM   
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Hey, Hobbsy, if your ignition setup works, just use it, don't mess with it, you might make it worse.




You guys seem to think that CDI is some mysterious force that is somehow unpredictible.

If you are fiddleing W/the Saito or RCXEL designs that may be true, but C&H perfected the Syncrospark systems 15 years ago.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 2:39 AM   
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It comes in the kit, sorry I didn't mention that.


What are you going to do W/the magnet in your prop hub?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 2:44 AM  1 votes
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 2:45 AM   
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Hey, Hobbsy, if your ignition setup works, just use it, don't mess with it, you might make it worse.


You guys seem to think that CDI is some mysterious force that is somehow unpredictible.
If you are fiddleing W/the Saito or RCXEL designs that may be true, but C&H perfected the Syncrospark systems 15 years ago.


That was not what I meant. He has a working ignition system, thus it really isn't worth scrapping it out for another system, unless it isn't working well and or is broken or something.

But then I see guys all the time at the flying field buying the latest and greatest new engine to replace their almost new current engine, just because they think they need it or have to have it. So if Hobbsy really wants it, then go for it Hobbsy.
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 3:11 AM  1 votes
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Status: online 		Earl, I can't adjust the one I made, so I'd buy it just to ease the setup Thanks, Dave

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 6:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dave, did your shoulder ever get really good, pain free, and like new again? How did you do all that damage? Mine is an industrial L&I claim thing. I'm typing with this heavy duty sling on and working the mouse left handed.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 10:38 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 12:19 PM   
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Dave, did your shoulder ever get really good, pain free, and like new again? How did you do all that damage? Mine is an industrial L&I claim thing. I'm typing with this heavy duty sling on and working the mouse left handed.

Jeez ernie i'll bet you fly 3d real purty mate!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 1:59 PM  1 votes
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Status: online 		Ernie, my shoulder is fine, I was lifting an approxinately 100 lb log onto a log splitter and heard this awful crack then ripping sound. The Dr. released me 0n 9/4 with no restrictions, which sur[rised me. Now, there is no pain, its as if it is a new shoulder. My brother told that the fist night after surgery would be the worst night of my life, he was right. It was really frustrating being limited to 5 lbs lifting all those months. It was worth it though to be pain free. Ernie, are you talking about a sling like this one? Thanks

I am glad that the guys pushrod is OK, we learned a new trick though. new mechanic tricks are always good to know.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 10:49 PM   
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That was not what I meant. He has a working ignition system, thus it really isn't worth scrapping it out for another system, unless it isn't working well and or is broken or something.

But then I see guys all the time at the flying field buying the latest and greatest new engine to replace their almost new current engine, just because they think they need it or have to have it. So if Hobbsy really wants it, then go for it Hobbsy.





Your comment about only making it worse seems to show a lack of understanding of how these CDI systems work. (mechanically)

C&H has used the fixed hall sensor/adjustable trigger magnet ring on the synchrospark CDI sytems since '97. The methods of securing the compnents has changed W/the use of CNC technology, but the basic fixed/adjustable scenerio has remained unchanged. These mounting fixturess had to be custom designed for each application.

When RCEXEL copied the electronics for outsourcing to China, they tried to make a one size fits all system for everyone. That was when the magnet drilled into the prop hub by the end user W/a rudimentary system of mounting an adjustable pick/up was tried. That type of set/up has proved less user friendly & the decision of Saito to employ similar systems has also been fraught W/problems.

If you look @ the PIX of Hobbsy's C&H system, it is KISS personified.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/18/2012 10:55 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/19/2012 4:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		>>> yep, had 3& in hosp now gettin TOTAL SSHOULDER,HURTS BAD BAD!!!!! BUT had no choice, rc completely gone! >>>

Hang in there my friend. You WILL get back to flying and then enjoy it all the more. Keep us posted.

Dave, that IS the same dang sling I am wearing as we speak. They really slow a person down huh! I'm looking forward to spring.....

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/19/2012 5:57 AM   
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Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/19/2012 12:55 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/19/2012 2:14 PM   
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Status: online 		Ernie if your situation is like mine was, there is no way to lay or sit that is comfortable with that thing.

Quick, OF is right the .62 may be the best choice. Thw .50, .56 and 62 are real sweethearts. The .62 has very nearly the power of the .65. The difference is 100 rpm or less.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/19/2012 5:40 PM   
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