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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/13/2005 12:44:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to know exactly how trinton charger detects that the cells(Ni-Cd and NiMh) are full charged ? how it works ?
My doubt is beacouse we never set the cells numbers, so the charger " don´t know" how many cell it is chargins, so when should end up the charger process ?


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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/13/2005 12:52:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually it can know when you set up what kind and size your battery is in the memory...have you done this.

Go to the memory section by pressing Batt Type (from the NicD menu) 4 times I think. It's after the Li-Po menu.

Turn the dial to the different parameter and when you have to change a setting, you should know, just press the dial down and set to what you have; 4, 5 cells...V/cell for discharging...maH capacity and the other things that are in there.

When you get done, press Menu and go to whatever screen you need to and go from there.

Hope this helps

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/13/2005 4:02:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Humm... i didn´t realizes that i could change the cell numbers. sorry, newbie.

Its really necessary to choose the cell number to a right charge ? If i just plug it , select the NiCd battery and choose the current, will it charge correctly or will be "thinking" that is chargin a last used memory settings ?


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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/13/2005 4:47:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that the Triton is smart enough, yes this technology is smart enough to know what size and everything the battery is. I do believe that's correct. It is alot easier to just put all your batteries into the memory. If you have 4 then you won't have to re-program everything for charging. When you have all of them into the memory, you just, like I said go to memory, push down the dial and go to what number that corresponds to what battery you are wanting to perform functions on. Then push the dial again do make the number stop blinking and then press menu like I said before and you do whatever function you need to

Hope this help...

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/13/2005 5:55:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Other question:
The "trickle charge" only works if "top charge" is set disable ? What the diference between "top charge" and trickle charge" ??

Thanks a lot.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/14/2005 3:56:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I also wanted to ask another one and that's: can I top off a pack.

I might have sometimes where I have a battery fully charged and after a couple days, I know they loose charge a little bit (it's a 1000maH NicD charging to 1113maH) and would just want to top it off, even though it's charging to over 1000maH and after a coupe days would be well over 1000maH?

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/27/2005 4:58:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've had the exact same problem you have. My triton charger in one cicle will cut off after delivering or extracting aproximately from 45 to 350 mA in a charge to discharge mode, and in the next cycle it will deliver 2000 mA and extract 1800 mA. The next two cycles the same thing happens. If I try to charge solely on Charge mode it will cut off to early in the game. the same happens with the discharge function. It seems that the only way to get a full charge is through the charge to discharge function, where in one cycle it will cut off early and in the next it will deliver the full charge.

The problem has not been solved by changing the wires, leads, conectors or even buying new batteries. The same problem shows itself regardles of the charge current applied C/10 C1 of C2. I have also noticed that the voltage redings for the battery pack may be higher that the peak voltage indicated in the series of screens showing the statistics for the corresponding charge cycle.

Curiously I have not encountered any problems (as far as I have been able to notice) while charging Li-Ions. However if I try charging the same packs that exhibit problems with the Triton in a Hobbico MKII Quick Field Charger, I can certainly get a full charge (95% quick charge, plus top off charge)

Maybe we have defective units. Has anyone else encountered this problem.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/27/2005 7:05:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Triton looks for a voltage drop (of the amount you preset) multiplied by the number of cells (input from memory location or automatically detected by voltage) Either method works the same.

The top-off is adjustable and works for 20 minutes.

The trickle charge goes indefinately (I think) and works automatically every time a nickle setting is used.

Topping off a battery after setting for a few days is fine especially if you want higher power from it. You may want to set the "peak delay at start" function to a low value like 1 minute although not really nessacary as the triton will engage that function if needed anyways. This "repeak" will build some heat in the battery and make it have more punch if that's what you desire.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/27/2005 7:31:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have tried set a delay in peak detection for 60 minutes and still te charger terminates within a few minutes. I have set the peak threshold at 15mV/Cell and still got the same problem. I have seen the indicated output voltage go as far as 10 volts for my 5 NiMH cell rated at 2000mAh. Could that be the problem?

changing the wires and connectors for better ones has had no result.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/27/2005 7:46:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I think you have a battery that is very old or for some reason will not hold a discharge voltage. The triton is seeing an open voltage dropping 2 or 3 times in a row and engages the peak detection automatically. If when you are chargeing you continually notice the voltage dropping on your pack it is either already full or probably just a worn out pack or ruined for some reason.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/28/2005 3:18:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		The guy I bought my Triton from acutally said that he doesn't even trust using the cycle function. He said that if you wanted to cycle a battery, just use the charge function, then discharge, then charge, or whatever you have to do. I don't know why the cycle function doesn't work properly, but the LHS guy said he doesn't trust those numbers.

I konw sometimes when I get everything right, the cycle function works just fine. I first use the charge function and completly charge the battery.

Then I use the DISCHARGE>CHARGE function and that gives me very reliable results. If I just do charge>discharge or discharge>charge, then I don't get the right number, but if doing the above sequence, then I get the good stuff!

~Michael~

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/28/2005 10:21:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have used , and trust the cycle function. It can be problematic if the delays are not set very high as batterires tend to spring back up to voltage at different speeds. I don't know enough of what is happenning exactly to comment on what's going on yet.

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 10/31/2005 9:47:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I kinda trust it, but like you said if you don't have the right settings set, then you won't get the right numbers and that will make you not trust the numbers the Triton puts out. What does everyone have their peak sensitivity and everything else set at?

~Michael~

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RE: Triton Charger Issue - 11/1/2005 2:54:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have set a 4 minute delay between cycles, and everything between 3mV to 15mV per cell for the peak sensitivity, and have got the results that I mentioned before (apparently false peak cutoff). I received a Super Brain Charger 977, and will try to see if I get different numbers from it.

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