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P-39 "where to find" - 9/7/2005 6:32 PM

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Hi, I'm thinking of building a P-39 but am having difficulty finding any kits or plans available. Does anybody know of any P-39 kits or plans currently available. The larger the better.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/7/2005 8:36 PM

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American Eagle has what you're looking for, or perhaps, as we have yet to see, HAD what you are looking for, given that they are in Metarie, LA. What a sad, sad thing for all those involved. Bob Neider is one of the finest guys I've met in the hobby, he will take care of you if it's still possible for them. I'm not sure of the web address, but googling American Eagle models will take you there.

I think there's was somewhere at 90+ inches. I've heard it flies quite well.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/7/2005 9:18 PM

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Here is their website : www.flyrcmodels.com

But I just checked it and it seems to be down. Not a good sign.

Hope all is well with them!

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/7/2005 10:00 PM

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Check the R/C Scale Builder site. There is a Consolidated glass & foam kit for sale.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/default.asp

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/7/2005 10:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: TLH101

Check the R/C Scale Builder site. There is a Consolidated glass & foam kit for sale.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/default.asp

ah Terry beat me to it.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/8/2005 12:15 AM

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Thanks to everyone who responded, you were all very helpful. I found that kit for sale, does anyone have any experience with that kit? Also, does anyone know of a powerplant that will fit inside the nose? I'm kind of strict about scale outlines, but with a p-39 that may not be possible. I remember my dad built a top flight p-39 when I was a young kid and the motor stuck out of that one a bit as well, but if anyone has any ideas let me know.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/8/2005 2:49 AM

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I have the Consolidated P-39 under construction right now. It has been on the back burner for a while as I have other projects as well. There is no engine that will not stick out. The front end is just too slim. You could use an RCV engine on the smaller models, but this one will need 70 or so cc's for power. Its about a 96"+ wingspan model.
I will be doing mine in the scheme of the 1946 Thompson Trophy winner "Cobra II". Here are a few pics of my progress so far. I hope to get back to it after the first of the year.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/9/2005 4:06 AM

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Here's a link for you. I picked up the 1/5 P-39 plan several years ago. I haven't gotten around to building it yet, but it looks good. The P-39 you see in some of the Top Gun footage from a couple of years ago was built from this plan.

http://www.fly-imaa.org/imaa/IMAAads/pepino/pepinoplans.html

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/9/2005 4:12 AM

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Go Electric! Hide the motor. It is a pure shame to disturb the streamline shape with a cylinder sticking out. Electric motors and ESCs as well as battery systems are getting as powerful as some of the big gas burners. A little more expensive, perhaps.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/9/2005 4:15 AM

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One of the magazines that features a different plane each month did a write up on the P-39. If you're interested I can find out more or even get the copy IF you want to do scale lines and such.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/9/2005 4:18 AM

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Almost forgot,
VQ http://www.vqmodelaircraft.com/products/aircraft/p39.html
Top Flite http://www.top-flite.com/airplanes/topa0145.html

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/10/2005 2:03 AM

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I did think about going electric but I'm only familiar with the smaller scale electrics. I have seen photos of larger scale electrics but really haven't researched any of the larger electric motors. How large of an airplane can electric motors support? I agree with soumas about chaging the scale outline of the p-39 by having a cylider sticking out of that nose. Thank you to everyone for the info and the links, I'm going to look trough them right now.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/10/2005 5:16 AM

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I believe there was an article in one of the AMA magazines, or another one, and the put 4 electric motors with a common gear to the prop and I think it was about 27%.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/11/2005 1:39 AM

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Check out www.kitcutters.com.... they offer a Jim Pepino designed P-39s with a 68" and 80.5" wingspan. Full wood kit for $200.00 to $240.00. The Airacobra is one one of my favorite designs.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 9/11/2005 7:33 AM

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I can't imagine a model too big to fly electric. There is even a man carrying electric being experimented with now. I personally know of two 100" SR batteries WWI Eindecker models being flown on single electric motors, one using an AXI 4130 and mine using an ACTRO 40-6. There is a 96" Rearwin Speedster ARF flying with an AXI 53xx? motor and flying very well indeed. I am presently building an 80" WWI British SE-5e that I plan to use the big AXI motor in with a JETI 77+ or a Castle Creations HV 45 ESC. Almost ready to fly is my Rearwin Speedster with a Plettenberg 370/50/A3 and a Schulze ESC. Start a conversation with Shawn Palmer at Castle Creations and/or any of the techs at Hobby Lobby. They are all great people and willing to help us out. Electrics are expensive at first but soon amortize out due to their simplicity, longevity, reliability, and cheap fuel (reusable electrons). They are not likely to lose us any flying sites, either.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 11/6/2005 2:36 PM

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For those of you wondering just how big you can build with electric motors, here are some pictures of my Top Flite Giant P-51 ARF that I converted using a Flyware T-Rex 40. Several of the guys that have seen it fly say it flys just like it had a 52 gaser in it. You can tweek the CG by placing your battery in just the right spot. Hey Maahh! No cylinder head hanging out!!!

I am shopping for wood to start the Pepino 80.5" P-39 and am going to use the same power system it it. I think I can build it lighter than the ARF P-51 was.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 12/19/2005 9:54 PM

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Hi, I've got a Top Flite gold edition P-39 that's about half finished. I won't finish it, cause I just don't have the time. None of the servo or engine fittings have been added, and I've got all the scale goodies that go along with it that I bought seperately (Engine, pilot, cockpit kit, scale prop) . Let me know if your interested, and I'll sell the whole shebang to you for a price that's fair to you and me. ramblinjoey@aol.com

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 12/20/2005 3:01 AM

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Sounds interesting, do you have any pictures of the construction? What type of engine do you have? I'm trying to keep a scale outline so I may end up going the electric route. Send me an email to wbrueshaber@yahoo.com with further information I may be very interested.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 12/20/2005 3:51 AM

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I saw an article (it's a couple years old though!) about a P-39 built with the engine in the scale location. The builder was using a torque tube to carry drive to the prop, he had some cooling issues but I seem to recall he worked them all out. The article, as I recall, was in the AMA magazine. That would be a very unique setup, lots of challenges but you'd have the only one like it around...

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 12/20/2005 3:57 AM

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I could not decide what engine to use on my Top Flite P-39 even the RCV engines need a big hole or screen for cooling. I don't like electric but that may be the only way to keep it scale. even if the engine was mounted in the middle it would need cooling! I don't think a radiator that size would work or even be able to hide that inside. reluctantly electric may be the only way to keep it scale.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 12/20/2005 3:46 PM

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http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=152325
Check this link to one for sale by a friend of mine in the warbird section.Todd

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 1/31/2006 3:53 AM

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How much was the Flyware T Rex 40 / speed control / and batteries? I can't wait to build an electric P39 with an 80"
wingspan.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 1/31/2006 2:20 PM

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The Flyware T-Rex 40 is an import from Germany. Sig also carries them, but they charge a premium of around $550. I ordered mine from Hollien in Germany for $350 + $25 shipping. The speed control is the Castle Creations HV110. I ordered it from Tower Hobbies for $229 - $25 special that they were doing. The batteries are a 10s4p 9000mAh pack I ordered from MaxAmps. They run their stuff on sale every once in a while. I ordered 40 cells @ $15 each for a total of $600.

$375+$204+$600=$1179

I know that this seems like a lot, but it was well worth it for me. There is nothing like the sound of that big prop flying through the air minus the sound of motor noise. Most people think that it soundl like the Allison or Merlin without the turbocharger. Plus no cleanup after flying, great performance, and the wonderful reliability of electric.

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 1/31/2006 5:27 PM

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I took some pictures (60 or so) of the CAF P-39Q several years ago and forwarded those to Bob Banka, I got a complete walkaround pictures with interior and details.

Contact Bob Banka, www.bobsairdoc.com

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RE: P-39 "where to find" - 1/31/2006 5:50 PM

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I got lucky i got a topflite P-39 already build and covered at the NC swapmeet for $10.00 it has a 57" wingspand, all i had to do is get servos wich i found for $1.00 a piece (5 for 5.00) and got too lucky when i got an ASP .61 engine for $9.00 yes $9.00..... in all i spend less than 25.00 for the entire plane all i have left to do is get a receiver. still less than $100.00..... soon ill post pics on here.....

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