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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 3:25 AM   
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Hi guys,
what can I expect the fins will look like from an ENYA 46 II 6002 with water cooled jacket when the jacket is removed?

Will it convert over to a normal finned aircooled engine?

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Apart from stuffing up what I expect would be a pretty rare version of that engine I can only pass on a big mistake I made with a water cooled Enya 35BB. I cut off the water jacket to find that Enya shorten the cylinder fins inside the jacket and then epoxy the jacket into place.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 4:02 AM   
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They machine off the cylinder fins to make room for the water jacket. So you wind up with a finless cylinder section on the crankcase.
You could chuck up a chunk of aluminum in a lathe and machine up a finned jacket to replace the water cooled jacket on the engine.
Sometimes the marine cooling jacket is glued on  or press fitted to the engine.




Hey Earl,
                yeah, I suspected as much. So no fins it is then, and I agree - its about an hour on the lathe and your done for a slip on jacket  but hardly worth the effort though.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 4:03 AM   
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Hi guys,
what can I expect the fins will look like from an ENYA 46 II 6002 with water cooled jacket when the jacket is removed?

Will it convert over to a normal finned aircooled engine?

Thanks.


Apart from stuffing up what I expect would be a pretty rare version of that engine I can only pass on a big mistake I made with a water cooled Enya 35BB. I cut off the water jacket to find that Enya shorten the cylinder fins inside the jacket and then epoxy the jacket into place.


Brian,
         would it be possible to leave the water jacket in place and simply add a radiator under the wing Mustang style?



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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 5:45 AM   
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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 3:49 PM   
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.....would it be possible to leave the water jacket in place and simply add a radiator under the wing Mustang style?

That might work if you only flew inverted so it could thermo-syphon . Joking aside, maybe using a fuel pump but pumping water around instead although I can see problems even with that.

Just so you know what's likely to be under that jacket, here's my mistake with the 35BB. It's not possible to machine up a sleeve because the remaining top section has the threads for the head bolts.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 5:47 PM   
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where can i get a muff for my enya 120r 4st. the big block. opol


take out the spaces and email shtterman @ aol.com . He may have them in stock.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 5:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have you tried running the engine as it is? I don't think missing a few fins around the cylinder is such a big deal, I believe it is the head that is the most important. I have done the same thing to an enya .19IV but haven't flown it enough to really test the influence of the missing fins.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 7:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think in this  case with the .35 engine, it ought to work out just fine with only those fins in the middle missing like that. I was thinking it was missing all of them before.
You might give it a test run. I have seen other brands of engines that had very little in the way of cooling fins on them and they ran fine for their intended application.

In the case of your .35 you would have to make a clamp on two piece finned unit that bolts together around the missing fin area. But I don't think you'll need it for a airplane.



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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 8:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		You may have seen this water cooled airplane engine already, although its not an Enya:
http://www.mvvs.cz/docMVVS/MVVS58LCradiatorEN.pdf
http://www.mvvs.cz/mvvs%2058LC_e.html

I have not read any feedback, would be interesting.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/10/2011 11:13 PM   
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That might work if you only flew inverted so it could thermo-syphon . Joking aside, maybe using a fuel pump but pumping water around instead although I can see problems even with that.

Just so you know what's likely to be under that jacket, here's my mistake with the 35BB. It's not possible to machine up a sleeve because the remaining top section has the threads for the head bolts.


Hi Brian,
             rest asured I was joking about the water cooled aircraft thing.
Thanks for the info about your ...... mistake, I appreciate it.
P.S.
If I was ever likely to machine up a set of cooling fins to replace the missing ones I would make them in a similar pattern to a piston ring, one slit in the circumference, expand it slightly over the top of the barrel and then drop it into place using the natural spring of the material to hold it in place.  May need a slight amount of epoxy to hold, but maybe not.




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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 2:23 AM   
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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 5:46 AM   
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where can i get a muff for my enya 120r 4st. the big block. opol


You can order direct from Enya in Japan, but I usually buy all my parts from Shtterman who sells Enya stuff on Ebay all the time.
He speciaizes in Control Line but he'll order in the engine parts and engines upon request. he is always ordering stuff from Enya and can get you a little better price as he can pool a number of orders together to save on shipping, etc.
For example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENYA-904C-120-4C-MUFFLER-BODY-ONLY-/220847943461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336b902f25





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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 5:48 AM   
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Just got an Enya 120 never run with no manual. i sent an e-mail to enya but havent got anything back. anyone know where i can get a manual for this engine?


What do you need to know? We could probably answer your questions. My R155 has the 120 instruction sheet in the box as it works for the 155 too.
I think the problem is the owners manual or instruction sheet is a oddball size and doesn't scan in well at all.




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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 8:54 AM   
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I recently bought an Enya 120, see picture, now I am looking for an instruction manual too. Who can help me?
Because it will take some time to send the engine I am very interested in weight and dimensions for engineering activities.

Thanks in advance

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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 10:04 AM   
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I am at work right now, but as soon as I get home in a couple of hours I will send you a PDF of the instructions for your engine. It looks like you have the pump model.
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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 12:40 PM   
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RE: Club Enya - 10/16/2011 6:25 PM   
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I was looking for the factory needle settings for this engine. i havent started it yet and just want to be in the area of where it needs to be.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/17/2011 12:20 AM   
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Here you go. Included a review by Clarence Lee.



Thanks very much, rrengineer.
A picture, Hanna and the Orion with the Enya 60 4 C engine.
We both love our four strokes.
Thanks again

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RE: Club Enya - 10/17/2011 8:27 AM   
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what propeller do you run on it and what rpm do you get;

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RE: Club Enya - 10/17/2011 4:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was looking over the enya 120 an noticed that there is an OS type F plug installed. Is this plug ok for this engine?

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RE: Club Enya - 10/17/2011 5:18 PM   
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RE: Club Enya - 10/18/2011 12:04 AM   
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Cees,

what propeller do you run on it and what rpm do you get;


Kostas1,
I cannot help you on this moment. I didn't note the propaller values and also never did measure the RPM's.
The plane is in the workshop to finish painting after repair, modifications and covering.
I did make a note in the logbook and as soon the plane is ready I have to do research, also for the propeller, because the wings are clipped.
I will respond your post and show my observations.
A picture I did make some time ago with the engine better visible.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/18/2011 9:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys, need some help with my 60 lll 7033. Is the carb and carb inlet supposed to have holes through both sides? It had a bolt and nut holding the carb in.  Wouldn't the bolt going through the inlet restrict air flow or would it not be noticeable?
Here are some pics that i'm trying to show the holes. Also the holes are not threaded. Could I tap them maybe?



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RE: Club Enya - 10/19/2011 12:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Enya used 2 very short screws on either side which screwed into threads in the original carbies.

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RE: Club Enya - 10/19/2011 12:54 AM   
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The Enya carb has 2 tapped holes and is held in place by to short screws. An 'O'-Ring seals the carb to the crankcase.


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