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Club FOX! - 9/13/2005 4:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Enough ranting about this foreign stuff...

Let's talk about real AMERICAN IRON!!

There's nothing like the smell of Hot Mehanite and Castor in the morning....

.15BB, .25BB, .40BB and a slew of bushing .25's .29's and .36s.....all IRON PISTON.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/13/2005 5:03 PM   
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Status: online 		An old .15 with a baffle in the exhaust, a modern .15, a .25, two .46s, four .50s, three .60s and three .74s. The .15, 2 of the .50s, 2 of the .60s and 1 of the .74s are converted to Diesel.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/13/2005 5:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I only have two, the .15 schneurle and the .25BB.
Sent the .15 to Fox for a carb problem, sent back the next week with a new carb! Terrific people there!
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RE: Club FOX! - 9/13/2005 7:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would love to chime in, but the only Fox I've owned was the 74 Eagle. It was a powerhouse, but running it reliably was a different story...

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 2:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well have just run Fox eagle IV 74 and 60 ring. But also have a contender on the table destined for a Fox 46 ABC.

Love my Foxes!

Recently ordered a part from Fox and they sent a sales brochure. Back cover was a Fox Stunt 60. It looked a lot like an Eagle I. It was promised to be released soon and more to follow. Any one with a heads up on what this new stuff could be?

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 3:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		1 Deluxe .40, 3 BB Schneurle (1 used) (2 new), 1 Eagle .60. & 1 Eagle .74. BTW, those 2 new ones don't have mufflers, and I'd like to get MACs mufflers for 'em, but there's no direct application. Anyone know if I can modify pipes for something else to work?

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 5:53 AM   
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an other example of their great service. Bring on the cheeseburgers not the Chinese takeout martin

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 11:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have two 1962 era Fox .15X control line engines and two seventies era Fox Eagle .60s (R/C). There may be more, but I'd have to look in the engine closet, which is unreachable at the moment. Yes, the wife and I are packrats. <G>

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 4:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 20 year old bushed .25 which I havent managed to get running, It was given to me buy a guy at work. I think it would run If it had a new carb, Just don't know if its worth it really(what would you guys say?)

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 7:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		They do not need new carbs, if not broken.

Some of Duke's carbs required a special set up in order to run properly. Once figured out, they worked really well.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 8:06 PM   
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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 8:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the carb is actually damaged, I will get it out and post some pics, If you guys could help out that would be cool. It has a baffle on the exhaust if that helps identify it.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 9:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damage is another matter entirely.

It sounds like the Fox .25 R/C (assuming it is R/C) that I bought for the wife's Falcon 56 in 1972.

It had an unusual low speed set up in that you had to rotate the fuel inlet nipple in order to adjust the low end. But it worked just fine.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 10:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thats the one. It will run of its prime but dies quickley.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 11:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're running off the prime then dying...either the needles are closed down, or something's clogged.

Open those needles a bit and run some fuel through the carb to flush it out. If it had been sitting a long time, some oil likely congealed in there and gummed things up a bit.

You can download a reprint of the original instruction manual for that motor from www.flitelinesolutions.com

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 11:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		"If you're running off the prime then dying...either the needles are closed down, or something's clogged. " Thats what I suspected but couldn't get it right. Is the baffle necassery if you use an exhaust the linkage that connects the throttle to the baffle was missing, i had to make one and it wasn't quiet right. I would be keen to use this engine on a spad or something but it would definitly need a muffler.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/14/2005 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The butterfly valve on the exhaust was used as a means of retaining heat at idle so the motor would run better. It was a pretty common item on r/c motors in the days before people started complaining about noise, and we all had to go out and pop for a muffler.

(Actually...they complained before then, but nobody cared)

We'd need to see a pic of your motor to tell you what muffler you need. If it's a 70's vintage motor...they used a Fox "B" muffler, and those occasionally turn up on the internet auction sites.

Later versions of this motor used a muffler similar to that of today.

Worse comes to worse...there's always the strap-on mufflers. (cringe)

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/15/2005 12:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will make one if I can get it to run. It has two threaded holes in the middle one above and the other below the port. So you are saying the baffle can be removed if I make a muffler?

Otherwise what sort of performance could I expect(the plane the engine was meant for never flew, apparantly the kit radio was never assembled so I guess it hasn't run much), will it be as powerful as my new tt25gp?

Here's the carb (from the link you posted)

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/15/2005 12:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to see them bring back the needle bearing crank/con rod for lower oil content fuel that thry used in the 60 and 74.

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RE: Club FOX! - 9/15/2005 5:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess I'll join this club too.
Have two 74's, run like a dream, never a deadstick. They do have Charles Thacker's modified head button which works great.
Couple old big frame 40's, couple small frame 40's, a 45 or two, a matched pair of brand new 50's.

I never owned a Fox that did not need a little of fiddling to get acquainted, then thay ran great. Most newer flyers can not handle a Fox since they require a proper break for the type of engine metalurgy they have (ABC or Lapped Iron or the ringed engines), certainly not a a box to flight engine.

I like them, light and powerful.


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RE: Club FOX! - 9/15/2005 6:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let's see...mine are mostly c/l engines.
I have a sand cast .29 w/ 4 head bolts...late 40's vintage maybe?
3, .35 stunt
2, .29's (newer ones )
and R/C I have a .15 sch. and old .25

Some of my most cherished memories are flyin' controlliners with my nephew when we were teens...
Most of it was w/ Fox power

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RE: Club FOX! - 10/2/2005 4:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		i just got home from the field and had to change out my fox eagle 3 to a fox eagle 74. i burned up the eagle 3 due to a wrong size pipe i think. anyways,,,the eagle 74 i bought used with a pipe runs so good,,its unreal,,,,,,,,

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RE: Club FOX! - 10/2/2005 4:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		if there was a fox club,,i know i would be in it. i am a big fox engine fan,,,,i know the problems and like to deal with them. i am sure you have all heard of flitelinesolutions.com it is a very good place to get info on fox engines. i tried to run a fox quickee 500 on a plane today but i have figured out what my problem is,,,fuel tank too low. dammitman!!!!,,,maybe a pump will fix that,,,,gonna see tomorrow.

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RE: Club FOX! - 10/2/2005 5:49 AM   
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What kind of problems are you having with the Quickee motor that makes you think the tank is too low?

Best solution is "raise the tank". These motors don't need pumps to run.

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RE: Club FOX! - 10/2/2005 7:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have regained my respect for the Fox engine name in the last year or so. The little Fox .15 is a powerhouse and I use it week end, week out flying combat, which is the toughest form of r/c flying there is on an engine with all the dirt naps. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. Believe it or not, I am running it on 25% nitro with lots of castor oil in the mix. Runs hot as a firecracker but cranks out the power nevertheless
I have been bench running an ABC .46 with an APC 12 3/4" X 3.5 degree pitch fun fly prop, and within only 18 oz. of fuel, I am getting a steady 12.4K out of the engine. It goes through that six oz. tank in a hurry though, whewww!
The fact that Fox now has CNC machines along with their hand set up machines says to me they are trying to compete with the imports. I just wish they made a straight muffler, not a tilt up or down!!!


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