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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 8:54:50 PM   
roycegraham


 

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Status: offline 		Yes, I jest. Ban is used satirically here: i:e - bad hobby shop sales people pushing cheap garbage off as "the way to go" -to get started. I've got a disreputable shop like that down the street that doesn't care what they sell as long as they sell it. Sucker born every minute - kind of thing. I've seen so many of those crappy things in the trash barell at the flying field. This is the major menace to us: Filling landfills with cheap, smashed foam/RTF electric garbage imports and losing possible new blood to the hobby because of certain failure.

On the true subject, never under estimate the tenacity these @#$@#$@#'s to use what we consider to be insignificant to reap havoc. How much did those box cutters cost? $1.49 at Home Depot?

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 8:56:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think people are finding humor because of things like "seized what it called a Chinese-made spy plane". It's not a spy plane, it's a toy plane. And it continues with "Chinese-made remote controlled drone". Again, it's not a drone, it's a bloody toy. and then "was equipped with a sophisticated, wide-angle camera". Who knows, they could have been using it to check out the women that they are not normally permitted to see.

And then, reality sets in with "However, it has emerged that the kind of plane on display is similar to model planes that can be freely brought on the open market." It's not just similar, it probably is a plane that was bought on the open market. The humor is partly from the attempt to paint the Chinese in the sinister role of providing "spy planes" or "drones", when in reality, it's just a kids toy that they probably bought via ebay or at a toy store somewhere.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 9:08:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eloquently put Chuck. Sorry Royce, it was kinda hard to tell.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 9:37:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, I think it's pretty ingenious(HORRIBLE choice of an airframe though.) I do have a sense of humor, but not when my A$$ is on the line, or those that I serve with. I take that more serious than most of you can imagine.

I agree that the article is laughably written, and no, that's no high tech drone or WMD . The purpose of the so called "high tech spy drone", and those that poke fun at that, is what really ticks me off.

It's a totally different viewpoint when you have mortars falling around you because they flew a "toy" with a camera on it over to pin-point your position.

Not so funny when the guy next to you gets blown into little bloody pieces due to a "toy". Contrary to what you may beleive, those guys ain't dumb.

You're welcome to your opinion of course, that's why we're over here in the first place.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 11:23:05 PM   
ptulmer



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Status: offline 		cwrr5, sounds like we're agreeing. You guys most of all need to keep in good humor. Good luck with the whole mortar thing. Everytime you say that I crawl under my desk and start whimpering. Yellow? Probably! <-----(more humor in poor taste) <------(trying to make somebody laugh!) <------(or at least smile!)

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/15/2005 11:48:43 PM   
cwrr5



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Status: offline 		Not at all! That's a perfectly acceptable method for keeping the ceiling off your head. (see? I do have a sense of humor, although somewhat warped)

Don't get me wrong, I have a pretty thick skin, not at all upset. Just sharing my point of view from where some of that stuff on CNN is actually happening.
Lots of good things happening too, but the bad stuff seems to be more newsworthy unfortunately.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/16/2005 12:38:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		crww5,
I see your point too as one who is over there. The terrorists have intelligence gathering to their advantage. They can easily buy a video camera system for under $90 bucks and give it to a kid, who can go up to ask for a pack of chewing gum and at the same time video back to the cell how many troops, how well armed, and other important data. The same kid could be at any center of operations gathering the same intelligence with his "toy" glider, kite, or RC airplane.

It is hard to fight an enemy who blends into the civil population and who uses the most innocent looking tactics to his advantage. It must be really stressfull when that you have to take everything such as a boy with a toy airplane as a potential threat. We here at home may think its funny, and odd, but we are not there in such an environment as our troops are in.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/16/2005 12:54:32 AM   
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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/16/2005 7:02:47 PM   
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I echo some of the lighter comments. What I find humorous is that people tend to believe that such a "toy" could be used as a platform for surveillance or to carry WMD. Even with brushless and lipoly, the airframe couldn't support considerable payload for the equipment. I've seen several of these at my field and they fly crappy. What's even more hilarious is what Mustangfan observed in the photo that a group of top-brass military men huddled around and making a big fuss over some cheap toy we throw in the bin after a coupla flites while they pass it off as some hi-tech sophisticated star wars weapon-- like it's some big accomplishment for capturing it. A GWS Slo-stik could have been a better choice.

Now, think about the real issue which is not so funny. Maybe they were using the thing to train so they could fly a much more sophisticated UAV later on. Thing to watch out for is if the good guys capture a GWS E-Starter later, it means they've (enemy) advanced to aileron training.

On the lighter side, at least they have the frequency flag up so they wouldn't shoot down other RCers. Talk about flying ethics in that part of the world.



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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/17/2005 5:04:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I believe I could very easily rig it to drop a tiny container of deadly biological material, a few blocks away without any problem at all.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/17/2005 7:38:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Laugh if you want to, but as far as the photography end of the equation, I have seen some excellent aerial photos taken with some of those small digital still cameras. Most of these cameras have a single nonchangable lens, which is a wide angle, and very effective with an electric powered plane. I have flown photoflights with a 35mm camera aboard a glow powered off the shelf R/C model and did not get the results equal to those I saw taken by a small digital camera in a Wingo. The electrics are very quiet and smooth due to no motor vibration. I had to idle my glow engine each time I wanted to shoot a photo in order to insure a sharp image. The idea and concept of using an inexpensive electric R/C model for recon may sound silly to some of you, but don't make the mistake of shrugging it off as a gag, or a stupid idea from some crazy terriorists. And don't let the simplicity of the equipment fool you. I have a Russian 35mm combat camera that compared to my Nikon F100 is just plain junk, but that hunk of junk makes photos of acceptable quality, and is rugged as hell...unlike my Nikon that hates dust and moisture witha passion. Which one would be better in a combat environment? One last thing guys, it has been said often by many, "Never underestimate your enemies...you'll live longer."
Been there and done that.....GP

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/17/2005 3:56:30 PM   
26C4U


 

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Been there and done that.....GP"
Yep, 20 years in insurgency against communists, religious extremists/terrorists... now in Haiti on UN peacekeeping against common thugs. Have enough exposure to look beyond what the circumstances suggest. "Underestimating the enemy" is thinking they don't have enough wits and use the yellow bird as a weapon out of the box. Giving the enemy enough respect is thinking they use this little tweety to train for a much more sophisticated and sinister weapon. Even UAV pilots had to start on something before flying those Predators. That's just my opinion anyway... not meaning to be offensive.

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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/17/2005 5:23:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey you won't think its funny when they ban our hobby here because of the Al **** heads killing with rc airplanes, this country is already nuts over taking photos in train yards and airports and even state and federal parks and camera don't kill anyone so if they say get a Extra or even a Nexstar that can carry weight of C-4 or C-5 then our hobbie will get banned really quick so go ahead joke around you'll be laughing last. Ghezz read the forums they the Feds are already making rulings on height and not flyin at airports so what is so funny, really I need a good laugh.....Sorry but I just couldn't help myself....


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RE: Al-Qaeda's deadly new drone - 9/18/2005 1:18:01 AM   
AgCat1982



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Status: offline 		Did you see any laughter in what I said?

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