Wild Hare design contest   
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Tower Hobbies
Enter up to 4 keywords or Tower stock numbers
Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
    Search This Thread  
 
Printable Version

All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic >> WildHare R/C Support >> Wild Hare design contest
Page: [1] 2   next >   >>  

Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 1:16 AM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		OK Guys you talked me into it. Here's the deal.

I am holding a covering scheme design contest for our new Cap and also for the new Yak.

The Cap is just starting production so we only have a few weeks to get the design settled, same for the Yak.

Specs for the Cap are 85" Span Cap 232, 77" long, will also be available with 90" wings in case that influences your scheme.

Specs for the Yak 54 are 80" span, 72" long, meant for 40 to 50cc gas or 30cc glow. I don't know why that matters but if I don't put it in somebody always asks.

Any designs submitted I will keep for reference and possible future use.

If I actually use a submitted scheme on either the Cap or Yak the submitter will be entitled to a free plane. You must pay the shipping and if in Texas you must pay sales tax. You can choose the plane that your scheme is used on or any other Wild Hare plane that we have of equal or lesser value. If you want one of greater value you can pay the difference in cash.

Submission of a scheme is your promise that you have the right to give us the scheme.

Send your design to designs@wildharerc.com by email only. You can send them in jpeg, gif, pdf, pub, psd formats.

Here are some design hints, You don't have to do it this way but it will have to be damned good if you don't.

I prefer a one color cowl because it's easier to keep spare parts around. If you can't do it in one color at least keep it simple. Aligning stripes on the cowl with stripes on the fuse can be a trouble spot.

Don't have a covering seam right at the leading edge, that is the cause of covering coming loose. Do something that wraps around the LE.

There should be a contrasting scheme on the bottom that's easy to tell from the top.

Make it easy to change colors.

Flames are hard to do, same with fading from one color to another.

Large areas of one covering on top of another causes bubbling. Avoid that.

Asymetrical schemes have worked well, but if you provide a symetrical alternative it will help.

I'll update this list as more things come to mind.

Don't submit anything even similar to what we already have in use shown below.

This contest will run one week only. Sept. 21 is the deadline.

If I can't view the design easily from email I'll just delete it, I don't have time to help out with technical problems.

Thanks.

Tom Fawcett






Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures
       Post #: 1

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 1:51 AM   
catfish2


 

Posts: 79
Score: 100
Joined: 3/4/2003
Last Login: 2/9/2010
From: Tyler, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Tom,

Do you have any 3-view drawings that we could use to work with? It might help speed the process and make comparisons easier if we all start from the same page.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 2

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 2:05 AM   
flier


 

Posts: 717
Score: 100
Joined: 11/14/2002
Last Login: 1/18/2010
From: Hastings, MN, USA
Status: offline 		Tom,
Here is a drawing of the Cap along with top and bottom views for contrasting schemes.
Let me know if the format is OK.
Changed the format to a jpeg.

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


< Message edited by flier -- 9/15/2005 4:49 AM >

_____________________________

flier
I3D, AMA, IMAC, & IMAA

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 3

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 2:25 AM   
Derek8819



Posts: 278
Score: 100
Joined: 12/11/2001
Last Login: 2/9/2010
From: Thibodaux, LA, USA
Status: offline 		edited

< Message edited by Derek8819 -- 9/15/2005 4:48 AM >

Hide Signatures

(in reply to flier)
       Post #: 4

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 2:41 AM   
Julien Hp


 

Posts: 178
Score: 100
Joined: 6/30/2004
Last Login: 4/24/2007
From: QC, QC, CANADA
Status: offline 		Thats a nice scheme Derek !

Keep one getting somes like this one !

JUlien

_____________________________

Wild Hare 28 % Edge 540t , CG ultimate (for sale) , Funtana .40 , Foamy / 15 years old pilot :D

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Derek8819)
       Post #: 5

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 3:39 AM   
Ken Bryant



Posts: 1369
Score: 100
Joined: 9/30/2002
Last Login: 12/2/2009
From: Surprise, AZ, USA
Status: offline 		Ahh Shucks... I am starting a new scheme on my All white Extra. I'm sure it would translate to any of the new birds. I might have to kick things into high gear to get it done in time.

_____________________________

Ken

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Julien Hp)
       Post #: 6

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 4:27 AM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		Derek:

What part of "Send your design to designs@wildharerc.com by email only." was not clear?

TF

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Ken Bryant)
       Post #: 7

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 6:21 AM   
XtremeAerosport



Posts: 518
Score: 105
Joined: 12/15/2001
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Elizabethtown, KY, USA
Status: offline 		Here's a 3 view I just drew for your coloring pleasure.

Jon



Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize



_____________________________

Jonathan Ott
Extreme Aerosports

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 8

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 9:32 AM   
dannny745@aol.com


 

Posts: 278
Score: 100
Joined: 1/22/2004
Last Login: 2/23/2007
From: bethpage, NY, USA
Status: offline 		for the yak -54

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


< Message edited by dannny745@aol.com -- 9/15/2005 9:48 AM >

Hide Signatures

(in reply to XtremeAerosport)
       Post #: 9

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 3:09 PM   
Ken Bryant



Posts: 1369
Score: 100
Joined: 9/30/2002
Last Login: 12/2/2009
From: Surprise, AZ, USA
Status: offline 		Tom,

It would be nice to see the designs after the contest is over. Is there a way you can post them afterwards?

_____________________________

Ken

Hide Signatures

(in reply to dannny745@aol.com)
       Post #: 10

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 4:32 PM   
F1race79



Posts: 604
Score: 100
Joined: 1/17/2002
Last Login: 5/24/2009
From: Hensley, AR, USA
Status: offline 		How about the ole Cap 21 scheme?
Anyone have a pic of one?


_____________________________

All it takes is time and money!
Julius Miller Little Rock, AR www.rcfarmclub.com

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Ken Bryant)
       Post #: 11

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 4:46 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		Yes, of course, I will post the best best 5-10 entries.

TF

Hide Signatures

(in reply to F1race79)
       Post #: 12

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 7:19 PM   
jdavera


 

Posts: 53
Score: 100
Joined: 6/30/2004
Last Login: 11/19/2009
From: Houston, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Can we submit as many we want?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 13

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 8:48 PM   
SunShyne



Posts: 3972
Score: 110
Joined: 12/25/2002
Last Login: 2/9/2010
From: Centreville, VA, USA
Status: offline 		here is a quick one thats a VERY rough draft


matt

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


_____________________________

Revver Bro #86
www.WizardsExtreme.com

Hide Signatures

(in reply to jdavera)
       Post #: 14

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 9:46 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: jdavera

Can we submit as many we want?


Yes, but keep in mind that I will go into a coma if I see too many.

TF


Hide Signatures

(in reply to jdavera)
       Post #: 15

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/15/2005 11:59 PM   
flier


 

Posts: 717
Score: 100
Joined: 11/14/2002
Last Login: 1/18/2010
From: Hastings, MN, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: rctom


quote:

ORIGINAL: jdavera

Can we submit as many we want?


Yes, but keep in mind that I will go into a coma if I see too many.

TF



When you get the design you want, call for a cease fire!
LOL

_____________________________

flier
I3D, AMA, IMAC, & IMAA

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 16

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/16/2005 4:07 AM   
RTK


 

Posts: 4526
Score: 100
Joined: 4/20/2003
Last Login: 2/9/2010
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Now that I am in the right forum to ask.

Tom what are the spec's on the cap's? Both wing sizes please.

I think it would be hard to vision the planes with out seeing the difference with both wings on them side by side. I would prefer the larger wing if it looked very scale and did not add more weight per sq.in.

Thanx Ralph

Hide Signatures

(in reply to flier)
       Post #: 17

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/16/2005 5:05 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline
quote:


Now that I am in the right forum to ask.

Tom what are the spec's on the cap's? Both wing sizes please.


Thanks Ralph. Some people get all twisted about vendors promoting stuff in general forums.

The Cap is 77" long from tail tip to cowl face and uses a 4" spinner, so total length is probably 81".

The lightweight wings are 84" span, 1330 sq. inches wing area. The plane weighs about 17 lbs with a DA-50, just about the same as our other 28% planes.

The larger wings are 90" span and 1530 sq. inches and have the CG moved forward slightly. I anitcipate that people using a heavier engine like a 3w 75 or ZDZ-80 will also add some reinforcing to the engine firewall to support that heavier engine. This will add more weight to the nose. I expect these wings to be use with engines weighing up to 5.5 pounds, which should give some spectacular results.

The H9 Cap has a span<>length ratio of .857 to 1. The new Wild Hare Cap with large wings will have a ratio of .855, virtually an exact match.

With the lightweight wings the fuse is a little long but it really is not visible and the longer fuse is much more aesthetically pleasing.

Other specs: Cowl width at F1 8.5", width across cowl cheeks 10.5". Lightweight wings are built-up, large wings are sheeted foam, wings and stabs on aluminum tube spars, cowl is pre-mounted, covered in Ultracote. Hatch is full length from rear of canopy to F1. Pull-pull rudder or servos in the tail. Single aileron servo per wing. Robart style pin hinges.

TF





Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 18

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/16/2005 5:42 PM   
RTK


 

Posts: 4526
Score: 100
Joined: 4/20/2003
Last Login: 2/9/2010
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Thanx Tom--How much do you anticipate the larger wings will weigh?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 19

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/16/2005 6:03 PM   
Dangerous Dan



Posts: 1818
Score: 100
Joined: 7/19/2002
Last Login: 3/19/2009
From: gainesville, TX, USA
Status: offline 		I saw the prototype cap It is one AWSOME looking Plane!! Best looking 50cc Size cap out there. If it flyed 1/4 as good as it looks then look out..

_____________________________

when inverted down=up and up=$$

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 20

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/16/2005 8:04 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		I don't know yet about the wings' weight. They may be a little heavier, but I doubt it will gain more than 4-5 oz. per panel. That will mean it picks up a half pound. Offset that with a CF wing tube.

Right now the smaller wings weigh exactly the same as our 28% Edge/Extra.

TF

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Dangerous Dan)
       Post #: 21

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/19/2005 4:40 PM   
flier


 

Posts: 717
Score: 100
Joined: 11/14/2002
Last Login: 1/18/2010
From: Hastings, MN, USA
Status: offline 		Tom,
How goes the contest? Any designs stand out so far?


_____________________________

flier
I3D, AMA, IMAC, & IMAA

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 22

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/19/2005 5:25 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		A few days left to go, have received 67 entries so far, they are all over the board. Some are really great. I don't know if I like any of them better than the ones I was already using, but we'll see.

TF

Hide Signatures

(in reply to flier)
       Post #: 23

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/19/2005 7:17 PM   
Ken Bryant



Posts: 1369
Score: 100
Joined: 9/30/2002
Last Login: 12/2/2009
From: Surprise, AZ, USA
Status: offline 		I'm thinking the K.I.S.S principal needs to be applied in this case.

_____________________________

Ken

Hide Signatures

(in reply to rctom)
       Post #: 24

RE: Wild Hare design contest - 9/19/2005 10:50 PM   
rctom



Posts: 5734
Score: 110
Joined: 5/8/2002
Last Login: 2/8/2010
From: Flower Mound (near Dallas), TX, USA
Status: offline 		Perhaps, but I'm not giving the guy who provided the 3 views a free plane in case we make some in all white. That's a little too obvious.

TF

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Ken Bryant)
       Post #: 25

Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>  
All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Giant Scale Aircraft - 3D & Aerobatic >> WildHare R/C Support >> Wild Hare design contest
Page: [1] 2   next >   >>  




Jump to:


 
Google 



Search | Marketplace | Event Calendar | Local Clubs | Magazine | Product Ratings | New Products | Discussion Forums

Photo Gallery | Instructor Search | Field|Track|Marina Search

Advertisers | Hobby Vendor Resources | Rate Manufacturers | Sign In/Sign Up

SITE MAP!   : :   FORUM RULES

© 2001 - 2007 24-7 RC, LLC, all rights reserved.

Charities we support that also need your help
Yorkie Rescue | Humane Society | ASPCA | Crohn's-Colitis America

Kaango.com Classifieds

1.031RCU1