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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/15/2006 4:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone know what the voltage on the Aero Ace lipo battery is?



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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/15/2006 4:38 PM   
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How did you attach the lights? And does it weigh the plane down any?



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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/15/2006 6:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		hey guys I was just thinking about a good landing gear and I came up with this: you can get the paper clip and bent it so you can stab it into the foam fuselage. then you get a plastic spoon and cut off the handle and attach that (by way of glue or tape) to the paper clip. this will work very well for nearly all landing surfaces such as pavement, gravel, grass, and snow.


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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/15/2006 8:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		no problem Sal. with the small size of the lipo cell that is in the AA (a 130mah cell), it probably wouldnt be that dangerous, and when used correctly, lipos can be just as safe as normal batteries, but its good to know about them. all single cell lipos are rated at 3.7 volts, with a max of 4.21 and shouldnt be discharged below 2.8 volts. going above or below those voltages can ruin the cell (the AA has a Low Voltage Cutoff so it wont discharge the cell past 2.8). i've been using this charger for quite some time now and am still happy with it: http://bsdmicrorc.com/productDetails.cfm?ProdID=10003&catID=10001 its 30 dollars, but if you get into RC more, you'll be able to charge just about any lipo battery you'll ever have.

another option would be to buy some rechargeable double A batteries, that way you can still use the AA's charger from the transmitter, but you wont have to keep buying new double A batteries.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 1:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got my hands on the Aero Ace. It came with three small metal tabs. It doesn't say anything about them in the instructions. I am going to assume that they are to hold the rudder and elevators in place if you have to adjust them. Am I correct?

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 2:19 AM   
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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 3:23 AM   
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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 5:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		hello all,great thread and an awesome plane...but i have a problem with a couple of my AA planes that i bought for my friends.i'll try to explain...my "B" freq planes are great but i have some "A" freq plans that don't work right(the first 2 planes w/this problem i took back to target.)the problem seems to be that the throttle is not in sync with the response of the motors and they will(sometimes)continue to run after the throttle is released(for about the amount of time that it took to get the response). i also have a "C"freq that doesn't work right either.it's the throttle on this one but you have to press the stick to the right to get response from the motors.if anybody could maybe help me fix this problem it would be great.THANKS for all help.jt

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 11:04 AM   
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I just got my hands on the Aero Ace. It came with three small metal tabs. It doesn't say anything about them in the instructions. I am going to assume that they are to hold the rudder and elevators in place if you have to adjust them. Am I correct?


Yes, they are used to hold the positions of the rudder and flaps. They DO work.

Enjoy your Aero Ace!

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 11:09 AM   
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hello all,great thread and an awesome plane...but i have a problem with a couple of my AA planes that i bought for my friends.i'll try to explain...my "B" freq planes are great but i have some "A" freq plans that don't work right(the first 2 planes w/this problem i took back to target.)the problem seems to be that the throttle is not in sync with the response of the motors and they will(sometimes)continue to run after the throttle is released(for about the amount of time that it took to get the response). i also have a "C"freq that doesn't work right either.it's the throttle on this one but you have to press the stick to the right to get response from the motors.if anybody could maybe help me fix this problem it would be great.THANKS for all help.jt


This is a common problem with the AA. Alledgedly they are working on updating the plane.
I've had this happen once or twice, I try to hold the antenna broadside to the plane at all times, seems to help a bit. In other words, don't aim the end of the antenna AT the plane. I also keep my plane within about 40-50 feet of me.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 5:46 PM   
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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 8:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		hey guys I just wanted to see if anyone knows about this electric helicopter: http://www.raidentech.com/aldoblhe3rcm.html ...you can see it at raidentech. it seems to be this micro electric chopper that can be flown indoors, but it also says that it's 3 channel. how can that be? if anyone know about this thing, please post about it!


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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 8:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just got one of these last night and took it to the indoor dome that we fly at. Man, what a blast This silly little $30 plane can be a lot of fun. I had to add a penny of nose weight and it seems like it took till the third flight for one of the motors to break in as it would always want to turn left even with lots of rudder trim.

Definately worth the thirty bucks.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 10:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		wondering what to do with your bottom wing after the cut off. turn it up side down for skis. a couple of toothpicks and some cement. we just got fresh snow, then when it got real cold, the top layer got icy making for real neat run ways every where. rean neat near the drifts.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 11:05 PM   
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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 11:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		the metal tabs are indeed for holding the tail flaps in position, but i never found that i had to use them (they stay in place on their own usually, and if not, any tape will hold it just as well, and not add the extra weight to the tail).

pigboat,
thats a BladeRunner clone, from what i've read, not a very good one. they are 3 channel, but flight times are usually poor. the new genuine bladerunner KA-50 BlackHawk is a far better bird, 15-20 minute flight times, better motors, better battery, better looking body and far better quality than the clones. its more expensive, but its worth it in my opinion.

but, with that said, since it is 3 channel, and fully proportional on all 3 channels, you can build some nice planes with the electronics. they're just like the AA's electronics, except the 3rd channel and the full proportional functions.

here's the bladerunner thread here on RCU: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2601563/tm.htm and heres ITCs forum: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=225

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/16/2006 11:34 PM   
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hello all,great thread and an awesome plane...but i have a problem with a couple of my AA planes that i bought for my friends.i'll try to explain...my "B" freq planes are great but i have some "A" freq plans that don't work right(the first 2 planes w/this problem i took back to target.)the problem seems to be that the throttle is not in sync with the response of the motors and they will(sometimes)continue to run after the throttle is released(for about the amount of time that it took to get the response). i also have a "C"freq that doesn't work right either.it's the throttle on this one but you have to press the stick to the right to get response from the motors.if anybody could maybe help me fix this problem it would be great.THANKS for all help.jt


This is a common problem with the AA. Alledgedly they are working on updating the plane.
I've had this happen once or twice, I try to hold the antenna broadside to the plane at all times, seems to help a bit. In other words, don't aim the end of the antenna AT the plane. I also keep my plane within about 40-50 feet of me.

Tom


sorry but i just find it hard to accept it like that...of all the guru's on this forum i was hoping that somebody knew more info about this glitch(is it the plane or the control?)so what?do i just use the planes that suck for parts or can i fix them myself with the help of somebody around here.all help helps.thanks

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 12:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		its not a glitch really. i too have this happen on my planes, there just seems to be a slight delay in either the sending or recieving the signal. as Tom said, i find that if i point the antenna straight up, rather than pointed right at the plane, it doesnt happen. i've also found that if i dont have the TX antenna fully entended, the RX doesnt get the signal, even if only a few feet away. low batteries in the TX can cause range and reception problems too.

i always flew my planes pretty low, going way up and floating around got boring. down at head level or below, there's pleanty of obsticles to (try) to avoid to keep things interesting.

nick

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 2:37 AM   
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low batteries in the TX can cause range and reception problems too.

i always flew my planes pretty low, going way up and floating around got boring. down at head level or below, there's pleanty of obsticles to (try) to avoid to keep things interesting.

nick


I got a low battery thingy tonight myself...the AA was about 40 feet up, just wouldn't turn, I stayed with it instead of cutting power and it flew right into a tree and stuck there at 50 feet up...I found out I can throw a hammer with a line attached about 48 feet...which nearly brained me more than once and made my arm sore.

I bent over to retrieve the hammer after one particularly close call and heard a little snicking sound. Flinched as I looked up, expecting to get hit by a falling branch that I must have yanked on with the hammer-connected weed whacker line...only to see my little AA friend gliding serenely down out of the tree - a gust had kicked it loose I guess - and land neatly about 5 feet from where I stood.

Love these little planes...I'm also changing the battery.

Like Nick, I love flying them down low too. I also "ridge soared" the high barn roof at my house...just a bit of wind was blowing up 15 feet off the ground, from the right direction and strong enough to hit the roof and provide lift...I was able to make a few passes with both AAs...soon as it got over the roof, about halfway up the slope, it would just pop up, slow down, and float, at about 1/2 throttle, across from left to right...soon as it passed the barn it sunk out and gyrated a bit. But for those few seconds, they thought they were albatrosses (albatrossi?).

Cute. The more you practice with these little guys, the easier it gets to fly them around bushes, over dog's heads, whack yourself in the noggin', just too much fun.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 4:21 AM   
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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 4:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey nick
one more thing about that blade runner...is there one that I could probably fly for under $50? is there is, I'd appreciate it if you could give me the URL, please...


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btw...I can't seem to be able to find the Blade Runner at tower hobbies. well, I can, but it's discontinued. Is there somewhere that it's still around?

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 5:22 PM   
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its not a glitch really. i too have this happen on my planes, there just seems to be a slight delay in either the sending or recieving the signal. as Tom said, i find that if i point the antenna straight up, rather than pointed right at the plane, it doesnt happen. i've also found that if i dont have the TX antenna fully entended, the RX doesnt get the signal, even if only a few feet away. low batteries in the TX can cause range and reception problems too.

i always flew my planes pretty low, going way up and floating around got boring. down at head level or below, there's pleanty of obsticles to (try) to avoid to keep things interesting.

nick


glitch.
(noun) 1 a : a usually minor malfunction <a glitch in a spacecraft's fuel cell> ; also bug 2; b : a minor problem that causes a temporary setback : SNAG ; 2 : a false or spurious electronic signal.
ok now that we all what a glitch is.i used new copper tops and it dosen't matter how FAR AWAY or how close or what hand i hold my plane in or how i hold my mouth or the TX.i guess you just don't know how this little plane REALLY works.i'll give up on this forum and tear it apart myself and FIX IT.thanks.i guess my next try will be standing on my head holding the TX with my feet and it might work without this glitch.

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 6:39 PM   
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You should change your name to Thor. ( fun intended )

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 7:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		JefrO I think maybe your expectations are a little too high. It is after all a 30 buck toy that does pretty cool little things. I occasionally get the lag off thing with the throttles...it does seem to be connected to weak batteries, though I'm not sure. I also get other odd little things, now and then, but I'm just adapting to what it can and can't do and trying to keep my expectations on the fun side instead of trying to tweak it into something it isn't, which is perfect.

For what it is, it is perfect for me...a cute little thing that's pretty responsive condidering it's got a couple toothpicks for control sticks, two engines the size of a pygmy's tellywhacker, and enough foam to make half a nerf ball.

Stick with it, have fun, cannibalize it when you've reached your boredom point, and God Bless RC flight.

Today I was trying to do some ROS (Rise OFf Snow) but need a bigger area, about ten feet of smooth packdown about five feet wide. I'd already tried ROR (rise off roof, which unfortunately required CUL (climb up ladder) with PIH (pole in hand).

I was also successful at ROL (rise off ladder). I put it on the edge of the paint bucket tray near the top, poured the pedal to the metal, she stalled off the flap and flew away. Yahoooo! (Alright, I'll have to call it a SOL - stall off ladder - takeoff. AA police, come and get me!)

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RE: Air Hogs Aero Ace! - 1/17/2006 9:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jef I'm thinking that you're a bit too critical for the common R/C beginner pilot. The AA is a good plane for $30 and I think it's worth it. I can see your point but just be a tad kinder displaying it...ty


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