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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 11/30/2005 2:05:09 PM   
bassman



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Great thread. I have one of the Wacos that will be delivered in the next couple of days. Keep up the good work.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/3/2005 8:08:11 PM   
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I built and flew a Wacky Waco many years ago. I powered mine with a Magnum .91 four stroke. It was (I traded it) a great flier and had the most unbelievable slow flight. I don't think the darn thing would ever stall. It did have some bad rudder coupling in pitch and roll. I was able to trim it out with my computer radio. While it's been years since I had it, the current pilot still flies it and says it flies every bit as good. I'd recommend getting rid of the light ply wood pieces for motor mount and install real ply.

I have recently acquired another kit. I was going to use the .91 four stroke again, but am now thinking maybe going electric with it. By building lighter and using thinner wood in some areas I think I could end up with a plane with great power-to-weight, not have to wipe up the slim after each flying session, and enjoy silent flight. I'd be interested to hear what others have for full up flying weight.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/5/2005 1:35:04 AM   
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Did a few chores tonight that I've been putting off.


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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/6/2005 2:17:54 AM   
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I did a few more "chores" tonight:

1) Mounted the fuel tank and ran the lines.

2) Routed out the cowling to clear the muffler

3) I added a 3rd bolt to the center cabanes

4) Since I decided against adding the curved bulkheads to the starboard side, I filled the slots in with epoxy.

Here's the photos that shows more detail:


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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/11/2005 6:09:35 PM   
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Still banging away on the Waco....Perhaps I'll finally get her finished this weekend!

I had a Williams Bros kit of a Vickers machine gun laying around so I thought I'd mount it on the starboard side of the fuselage. I realize it isn't contemporary to the era of the covering I've selected but then, the Waco isn't either. The threaded rods will allow me to simply epoxy into the balsa side just forward and below the cockpit. The charging handle, "could" be accessible from an opened cockpit, lol....

Here's a few from yesterday:

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/18/2005 9:47:42 PM   
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Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!

Well, it's been a busy week at work and I hadn't had any free time to finish up on the Waco.

This weekend, with all my shopping and running done, I returned to the bipe to complete the project. I made pushrods out of Central Hobbies carbon tubes for the ailerons but stayed with standard 2/56 threaded rods for all other controls.

This is the 1st that I've ever placed a pilot figure in any plane I've owned or flown! I picked a suitable subject off the Internet, printed it out and reversed the profile to get both sides to match. I layered him in clear plastic from scrap crack and peel markings then epoxied onto a piece of 1/8" lite ply. I cut him out on my scroll saw and glued into place. The "headrest" is scrap balsa.

This will be my last posting on the Wacky Waco. Taxi trials and the initial flights will now have to wait until Spring. If anyone is interested, I'll be back then with followup.

Anyone out there that has the kit, is building one or is thinking of building one, I'll be happy to assist in any way I can...just reply to this thread and I'll get back to you.

Here are the final photos I took this afternoon once the radio was installed. I forgot to trim the filler line and plug that off..

Thanks for everyone's interest...!

Regards,

PointMagu
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12-18-2005



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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 12/18/2005 11:19:55 PM   
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sure turned out nice! Let us know how it flies for sure!

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 5/4/2006 3:51:59 AM   
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1st flight report:

On Sunday April 30th, we flew the Waco for the 1st time. Taxi trials the previous week had revealed a faulty rudder servo and a tail heavy situation. These were addressed and corrected the Saturday before the initial flight(s).

The OS 60 was partially broken in, (2 tanks) and the decision to fly her made. My club president, Bob Wittington took the transmitter and rolled the Waco out and into the wind. Rolloff was smooth and the Waco climbed into the air.

The takeoff was flat and began picture perfect. About 30 ft up, the plane pitched up sharply but Bob handled it well and proceeded to circle the field several times, trimming as he went. The 60 was marginal for power but she flew well. The 1st landing was flat, smooth and a huge success! After reducing the throw on the elevator, (our reasoning for that sharp pitch up), I topped off the tank and fired her up again. This time, the taxi and takeoff was again flat and smooth.

Once again, about 40 ft up, the plane pitched violently up and looped itself. Bob yelled he hadn't done that and the plane began a rapid descent towards the ground. Bob had time to chop throttle and pull back on the stick. Another 5 ft of airspace and the Waco would have touched on her gear. Unfortunately, the 5 ft wasn't available and she hit hard on the nose.

The aluminum gear bent back. The aluminum inner cabanes were pretzeled and the bottom lower wing panel snapped at the fuselage. Other than a broken prop, that about summed up the total damage! The upper wing and fuselage were unscathed!

So, what happened?

STOOPIDITY, that's what. MINE.

When we carried the plane back to the pit area, the battery pack was removed to check things out. Uh-oh.

Back around Christmas, I had t-e-m-p-o-r-a-r-i-l-y installed the radio to check throws, etc. The pack I used was an old one that I had laying around. YEP...I never removed it and flew my beautiful bipe with a pack that had a weak cell! STOOPID.

Everyone commented on how well the plane had flown so I decided to repair the damage and REPLACE the battery.

NEVER build a new plane over Winter and install everything and let it set. I had completely forgotten which battery I had installed and was so excited to see how she might fly that I committed a cardinal sin...ALWAYS check EVERYTHING before that 1st flight!

So, I've straightened the landing gear, rebent the cabanes(mostly) and reattached the lower left wing panel after carving out the old snapped ply spar, (a la Dremel) and installing a new one, slightly shorter to accomodate a NEW 2400mAH battery pack.

I'll post a few photos but I've none of the crash damage...only my repairing efforts in a day or so.

Oh, and I removed the new OS 60. I recut the engine plate to accomodate a well used ASP 90. The larger displacement and additional weight up front should cure the tail heavy thing and keep me from having to add that 8oz to the nose. The added hp will also make the plane a bit more "peppy". Fortunately, the profile fuselage appears to not have sustained any cracks. The holes drilled for the 60 in no way remotely match the ASP pattern so those 4 holes will be the biggest concern on future flights. I may plug them with doweling and epoxy before redrilling the mounting holes for the .90.

So, there it is. A great flyer and a not-so-great builder. Oh well, I lives and I learns...lol.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 5/4/2006 6:45:10 AM   
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Glad to here it flew well, and the fuse didn't break. Hated building the fuse, tail feathers and center section. loved the wings. Now Ive gotta steal a covering scheme, and Git-r-done.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 5/5/2006 2:24:47 AM   
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LOL...

I gotta tell ya, my 1st choice of color scheme was Al Williams Gulfhawk II. The overall orange with white sunburst outlined in dark blue was a real pleaser years ago when I built a CL Grumman F3F-3. However, I've 2 other birds with that general pattern of sunburst so I wanted to do something different.

A Navy Goshawk F-11C scheme looks great on the Waco as does the F4B-4 with a split color cowling.

Anyway, whatever you choose, I'm sure you'll enjoy the model. I'm almost ready to re-install the radio and get it back to the field this weekend.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 9/15/2006 5:35:14 AM   
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A little back ground. I contacted PointMagu last week regarding this kit. I just picked up the same kit minus a few parts, plans and manual.
I was really amazed at him and the people in this hobby for the generosity and willingness to help fellow modellers. Not only did he send me the plans and manual, he sent them for free and shipped them at his own expense from the U.S. to Canada. Shipped right to my door.
Don. I really appreciate this gesture and will return this gesture to the next person as you requested.
It's fantastic at the people to help for this great hobby.
I am thanking publically for your generosity.
Rob Harway
Treasurer of the Sun Parlor Flyers
Windsor Ontario Canada.
www.sunparlorflyers.ca
Don. If you ever make it up this way, please feel free to contact me and we'll get together to fly this WACKY WACO.

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RE: Wacky Waco...Updated - 9/16/2006 12:12:05 AM