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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 12:43:17 AM   
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Then I will put it on a bench and break it in -- Thanks for the warning.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk - 12/8/2005 1:06:53 AM   
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Is that motor box painted the different colors, or is it made from luan ply?

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 1:18:11 AM   
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Christmas came early My hawk arrived today. Pictures of basic package already posted so I'll just post a couple of special ones and make a few immediate observations.

This is one incredible ARF. One of the best I have seen, and I've seen some of the best. It is very light but built with a lot of interlacoking parts and reinforcement in the right places. Just look at that engine box. The covering is imaculate and my hinge slots are dead straight and centered.

It's a good thing I haven't bought an engine yet because this is a very unique plane that is going to take some thinking and research to come up with a gasoline engine that will fit right. The engine prop shaft is offset an inch below center just like the real Hawk. Also the engine box face is not that large: 4.5" wide and 4" high.

The cowl size in the engine location is 7" wide, 4.5" above the prop and 3.5" below the prop with about 6" of offset from engine box face to front of cowl. I researching hard because you can almost mount an engine upright in this bird. I'll let you all know what I find/decide. When I first saw the plane I was a little surprised. Iexpected it to be bigger visually. But this plane is not really a gasser; it is a true 1.20 glow size plane, as stated I might add. but I hate glow and will get a gasser in her somehow

There is quit a bit of space inside the fuselage for CG adjustments and placing a smoke tank; albeit some is hard to get to easily.

Added PS: Well after more research, it is going to be near impossible to get a gasoline engine in this plane without completely chopping up the cowl. Practically everything I see will stick out the bottom a couple of inches or more. The only gas engine that may be able to mount upright is the RCS 1.40, but the sparkplug will stick out the top and the engine is too light. So ifanyone has any gasoline engine ideas I haven't thought of, let me know.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 2:28:31 AM   
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The engine box is fuel proofed, but not painted. that ply is some kind of darker wood.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 3:26:36 AM   
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Steve,

Got my Hawk today as well. This thing is huge!

Rethinking engine options. I've got a K&B 1.00 that I fit with out having to cut the cowling for. A 25cc or so gasser would definitely fit with engine box mods and you probably wouldn't need the nose weight box.

Hmmm.......

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 1:18:39 PM   
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Mike, you haven't even flown the Ultimate yet, why on earth get this thing.

I'm not moding anything. that's why I buy ARF's But it's not just the engine box. the plane was designed to have that "low" crankshaft and that is scale. I have determined that the G-26 may fit in the cowl mounted upright. I'm also think, if I win the lottery, that a Laser 200v would fit nice, albeit costing twice as much as the plane.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 1:58:07 PM   
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Picked mine up yesterday. Looking at using an Evolution 26GT gas.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 2:43:59 PM   
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The G26 will fit in the cowl upright -- but I don't think the sparkplug will.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 2:48:31 PM   
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With careful measuring and a "short" plug it should fit. but the exhaust and throttle linkage is what I'm trying to get figured out.

Rowdy1, you may want to take a close look at things. I had looked at the MVVS/Evolution engines and decided that front mounted carb didn't give enough clearance. Course if it's mounted inverted the whole thing will stick out anyway.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 2:49:32 PM   
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Consider the carb sticking out one side and the muffler sticking out the other.

Plus there's no place for cooling air to get in with the cylinder pointing upwards.

I tried fitting my G-26 and the results were not acceptable

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 3:05:49 PM   
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How 'bout the ys-110, would it provide enough gusto?

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 3:41:29 PM   
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Thanks guys for the input. I will probably use an O.S. 120 now.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 3:59:38 PM   
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The first gas engines that pop into mind are the MVVS and ROTO engines.

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 4:17:38 PM   
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Yes, I have talked to Mark at RCS and I'm leaning toward the Roto35, inverted. The Roto because it is a very clean lined engine that will not look as bad as some. There are a couple of engines that will fit upright, but there is no resolution to the cooling issue without hacking a big hole in the front of the cowl. I really do not want a glow powered plane. It's gas or sell it.

Dick, did you find the G-26 unacceptable even inverted? thanks and why? Clearances?

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 4:23:05 PM   
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Carb sticks out one side, muffler sticks out the other. Plus it's quite heavy.

My Hawk with OS 120 and batteries on engine box shelf weighs 13 pounds 12 ounces and no lead to balance

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RE: P-6E Curtis hawk (build thread) - 12/8/2005 4:28:28 PM   
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Hey Dick are you doing a review on this plane?

Kelvin

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