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This is in response to Tigerdude's problem with is wingtip. I've taken the left wing panel off of the board and I took a look at how the wingtip should look. You might think that you're sunk, but it's actually a pretty easy fix.
Ok, here's the problem as I see it. Two problems.
The first is the "gaping hole" in the front part of the wing tip plate. don't worry about it. Once you cut off the excess leading edge, top main spar, top rear spar, and the trailing edge you will sand it all down smooth. When you cover the plane the hole you are worried about will be covered with covering. You won't even be able to tell it's there.
Ok, the second problem. First put the wing panel on the floor, climb up on a chair, yell aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, and jump from the chair onto the wing panel. Hey tigerdude, breathe man!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just joking to see if you are paying attention!!!! Sorry, couldn't help funnin' with ya. Here's your fix. Basically you glued wing tip plate on a little bit low, so a "bump" extends below the line of the bottom of the wing. Here's what you will need to do to fix it. First, get a piece of tri-stock (try to use balsa to save weight). You will have to sand/carve for it to fit on the inside of the wing tip plate (see attached picture for clarification), you want it to fit between the wing tip plate and the outside of the rib W5. What you are doing here is adding material so that you can sand on the bottom and not worry about the wing tip plate coming unglued when you sand on the joint. Now turn the wing over and sand the "bump" flush with the bottom of the wing. The material wedge you put inside the wing tip plate will keep the plate attached as you sand on this joint. Once you have it flush with the bottom of the wing you are all set now.
See my next post to see how I am doing this. It will help you when you do the wing tip plate on the right wing half.
Hope this helps
Ken
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Tigerdude, Here is what I will do. I'm not quite ready to glue the wing tip plate on yet, but I did enough prep and dry fitted the part so you can see what I will be doing.
Picture 1-4. This show the part as it comes. You can see the "bump" that is your problem in picture #2. #3 shows you gap, which you don't need to worry about because it will be covered with covering when you finish the plane. Picture #4 shows the part with the "squared" rough edge. Picture 5 & 6. Basically we need to bevel the edge of the wing tip plate so it will fit better against the outer side of rib W5. #5 shows sanding a bevel on the wing tip plate. #6 shows this bevel. Picture 7-12. These pictures show the wing tip plate in place after the edge has been beveled. As you can see, it will fit better against the outside of rib W5, and on the bottom of the wing it will not "stick out" along the line of the bottom of the wing.
I hope this helps you out. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other problems.
Ken
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MinnFlyer, I like your scheme. I was thinking of something similar, but don't how to do it. Sad thing is this puter has some different photo programs in it. I was thinking of transparent violet, trimmed in the pink, being her favorite colors. I think the transparent violet would really showcase Kens craftsmenship and hard work as well as purdying up her little plane at the same time. Then maybe we could use some the logos of pif, & rcu wear some of the starburst are, maybe something Disney on the rudder or something like that. Will you program let you get that detailed? I can see it in my head but I have no idea how to turn it into a viewable pic the way you do. For a better idea of what I'm trying to describe if you go to my models, I have a Sig Rascal in there, that has the transparent violet trimmed in white. Just replace the white with pink is what I was thinking of, with your Barbie logo and Ken's craftsmenship shining thru, I think it might be real purdy, take a look at the Rascal & tell me what ya think of those add-ons to your scheme. Thanks, Mark
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Mike, What kind of covering is that on the plane in your picture? I looked and tower and I didn't see that color in monokote and didn't see that color in transparents. The only transparents for monokote are red, orange,yellow,clear,green, and blue.
Ken
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Bubba, Ah, ok. I found it. They have a purple, but no pink.
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Mike, That's incredible how you do that! I believe the color is transparent violet, but not certain. Yes Mike, something like that is exactly what I was trying to describe, but I liked your Barbie on the wing too!
I see now why they call ya the photo shop God. Very cool!
Mark
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Ok, the second problem. First put the wing panel on the floor, climb up on a chair, yell aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, and jump from the chair onto the wing panel. Hey tigerdude, breathe man!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just joking to see if you are paying attention!!!! Sorry, couldn't help funnin' with ya. Here's your fix. Basically you glued wing tip plate on a little bit low, so a "bump" extends below the line of the bottom of the wing. Here's what you will need to do to fix it. First, get a piece of tri-stock (try to use balsa to save weight). You will have to sand/carve for it to fit on the inside of the wing tip plate (see attached picture for clarification), you want it to fit between the wing tip plate and the outside of the rib W5. What you are doing here is adding material so that you can sand on the bottom and not worry about the wing tip plate coming unglued when you sand on the joint. Now turn the wing over and sand the "bump" flush with the bottom of the wing. The material wedge you put inside the wing tip plate will keep the plate attached as you sand on this joint. Once you have it flush with the bottom of the wing you are all set now.
Ha, ha, ha . Funny man, I loved your sense of humor - too cute. As I stated earlier I did NOT glue the wing tip plate in yet, I only test fitted it. So I can still bevel it. My question is, seeing as thou I can still bevel it out should I still add the tri-stock? I know you will probably say no to this, but remember - as you can see in the pic, the tip has been cracked and filled at one time before I even received the kit and maybe the tri-stock will help strengthen that problem along with filling it in some with filler. Or do you think filler will be enough for the crack? If I add stock to this tip it will also have to be added to the other tip to even out the weight. So, should I add the tri-stock, tri-stock and filler, or just the filler to add strength to the crack?
As for the big gap at the L.E tip, I will leave it alone.
CORRECTION: But then again, where I would add the tri-stock by the rib would not do anything for the crack as it would be nowhere near it, so I just answered my own question . Just fill it in with gap filler. As for the bottom of the tip near the rib, should I add the tri-stock to strenthen the tip or just bevel it?
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