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Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/11/2005 12:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Model: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com then click on Go Micro
Wingspan - 26.4 in
Length 19.7 in
Flying Weight 0.5 - 0.6 lbs
Brushless Outrunner Motor BM 2408-21 (included)
Price $129.99

My Set-Up
Battery LiPo 2 cell Thunder Power 900 maH
Micro Servos 2 (Elevator, Rudder) or 3 (Elevator, Rudder, Aileron) HiTec HS-50
ESC Phoenix 10A
Receiver FMA M5v2 Sub Micro Dual Conversion
Radio Futaba T4YF


Since long time ago I have been looking for my dreamed Park Flyer: a model able to flight in a small outdoors space, less than a soccer field; a handsome model close to a scale one; a strong model who can handle winds well above 10 mph; and, of course a stable model even at low speeds. I saw the information in Model Airplane News about a recently launched set of mini-planes by giantscaleplanes.com. The photo of its Tiger Moth 370 was really promising to my search. I investigate more in the giantscaleplanes web page and the information there, although it was not enough, convinced me I should try this model. I bought it with the doubt about what was the manufacturer. My first surprise: the plane includes ailerons in lower wings! This is almost a bonus in this size of RC planes. Second surprise: the model comes with an outrunner brushless motor instead of the brushed one that appeared in its advertising. This is a strange case in which the actual product overcomes the advertised one.
Overall, this is an outstanding RC plane! I never imagined that a so small airplane could be manufactured with such a quality. The materials and finishing -balsa, film covering and hardware- of this ARF airplane are just great. The only disappointing item of this model is the skinny manual, which lacks several important aspects, as the precise CG position. Nevertheless, the little assembly to make it neutralizes the necessity of a more elaborated manual. The assembly is quite straightforward and logic, except in the pushrods where carbon fiber rods have to be CianoAcrilate-glued to conventional wire and covered with heat-shrinking tube to both ends of the pushrods. This requires approaching a soldering iron inside the balsa fuselage, which makes the assembling of this part a little bit cumbersome due to the tiny available space inside the model. You could want to use your own all-wire pushrods as a much better alternative. Also choose the smallest receiver and servos (sub-micro or smaller) that you have available because the space inside the model is tight.
My 2 cell LiPo Thunder Power 900 maH Battery required opening a small slot in the balsa of the first support, which I previously checked would not weakened the fuselage.
Related to the upper wing, I placed my CG at 30% the planform chord (about 1 7/16 inches or 3.6 centimeters). If you want more information on this issue, see the calculation of the CG of a biplane at the very bottom of the web page http://users.adelphia.net/~pjburke1011/cg.htm
I used several loops of soldering wire placed as dead weight in the nose for balance.
I made my maiden flight in a 10 mph wind day. The airplane behaved superb and handled the wind in a great way, impossible to achieve to an equivalent foam-model made from any other manufacturer on this or similar size.
On the next days I will flight this airplane as much as I can to test if his possible endurance is as great as his beauty. After that I will answer myself whether or not this is my long awaited ideal Park Flyer.

Excellent for beginners!


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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/12/2005 9:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes! No doubt on it. This is my long awaited Park Flyer. I have been flying this plane day after day during a week and I conclude that this is the best Park Flyer I have ever seen. I am buying the Cub J-3 from the same brand to compare the behavior of a monoplane with the Tiger Moth .
With my current set-up I am totaling 14 minutes each flight. By the way, as the battery in this plane is placed in a such tight space I have preferred to recharge it at the field instead of changing it.

Important: I tested also that you must to set minimum throws to avoid stalls.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/14/2005 3:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can find more information about this airplane at www.lxmodel.com
The photos about the assembly of this and others models are very useful.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/16/2005 1:16 PM   
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I was thinking of doing a Brushless CD rom GWS tiger moth

But this is another way to go have you had a gws pico before ? how are the two in flight ?

Last question when ordering can you choose the color

Thanks for the info and let us know how you like the cub




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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/16/2005 7:51 PM   
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Previous to this plane ( Tiger Moth 370 LX Model) I owned a GWS Pico Tiger Moth upgraded to a brushless Feigao motor. It is a great first plane. Its big dihedral angle makes it very easy to fly because you can go to almost walking pace. Nevertheless, as it happens with most foam little planes, it is very sensitive to the winds, reason because I recommend flying at a maximum of 5 mph winds.
With the Tiger Moth 370 by LX Model we have a different story. It is made from balsa and film and the struts are made out of wood. Also its small dihedral gives it best performance characteristics and an almost scale appearance. Therefore, this model is strong enough to fly easily against 10 mph winds.
Of course the GWS is almost half the price of the Lx Model and this could be a restraint in some cases, but I consider the Lx Model worth the price.
I received my new LX Model Cub and it is as beautiful as the Tiger Moth . I have not yet assembled it, but it is evident that the Cub has much more internal space compared to the Tiger Moth , which will make a lot easier to install the servos and transmitter. I will post any new information I would have about it.
You can choose the color of the LX Model planes when you order by phone. On line you do not have this option.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/18/2005 1:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today I received an e-mail from LX model, China, which could be useful to all of you interested in their planes.


"I deeply appreciate that you introduce LXmodel airplanes in famous web site.

I come from Korea and my factory is located in Weihei China.

LXmodel airplanes are designed for beginner and a second ship of expert for relaxation.

They always are flown in strong wind in beach so their structure is good enough to endure strength

but please don't forget the rigging that is very important as you know.

Tiger Moth 370 LX model has too small space to install equipment as you say

so I have to try that the next LX tiger moth will be make easy to install.

My web site(www.lxmodel.com) is changing to English so you can use easly on next week.

If you have any problem, please let me know.

I will take your advice with great pleasure.

Thank you very much

Sincerely yours

LXmodel

Young J Lee

18 Oct 2005"


As you can see this people are very open to hear our recomendations to make better their products.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/20/2005 6:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Placed a order on Monday
The tiger moth was on my door step Wednesday .Great service

Just need to go get supplies and build it




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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/20/2005 6:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please, let us know your experiences with your little jewel!

Good luck!

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/21/2005 1:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great thread,,,looks like the electric I've been looking for,,keep us posted on the cub ..please...Rog

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/22/2005 3:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today I added the rigging to the wings. It flies even better because you also feel its outstanding strength.
This rigging is not ornamental but very functional!

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/23/2005 5:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today during a landing I made a miscalculation to the distance of a fence and my Tiger Moth crashed on it. It brokes the motor mounting from the fuselage. With 5 minutes epoxy glue the damage was fixed almost instantly. I will be on the air this afternoon again.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/27/2005 3:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I started today the review of the Piper Cub J-3 by LX Model. If you want to see it go to http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3493283/tm.htm


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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 10/29/2005 2:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Regarding a question someone asked me in an e-mail, I painted the transparent cowling with plain white spray paint from the inside. This way the cowling looks with a nice gloss from outside. It also becomes less prone to scratches.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/4/2005 8:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flying my Tiger Moth in a soccer field located close to a hill I got some kind of receiver glitch, which dragged my plane out any possible control. Now it is stuck up 20+ feet high in a pine in a small forest. I expect any strong wind blow it down back to me in some moment. Meanwhile, as I could not give up with this plane, I bought other. This time it is I made up my pushrods from piano wire instead of the carbon fiber and wire stock option. It works just great and it is a lot easier to install in the tight internal space of the Tiger Moth .

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/4/2005 8:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today I tested both the LX Model Tiger Moth and the LX Model Cub J-3 side by side in successive flights. Both planes are superb but the Cub is more brisk and therefore less forgiving, which could mean more difficulties for a beginner pilot. Do not forget to give up some elevator in the turns or the plane will make a wing stall! You have to fly it at ¾ throttle to avoid problems. The Tiger Moth is another thing: it flies naturally at low or fast speeds and it makes tight turns with almost no elevator up feeding. I flew it most of the time at less than half throttle. All of this makes the LX Model Tiger Moth a perfect first plane, park flier and semi scale style for a beginner pilot. This is the best park flier I ever have flown.

A word of caution: As I have previously stated, the location of the C of G and short throws are crucial in these small models. Take care on them!

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/6/2005 5:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		M5v2 Sub Micro Dual Conversion Receiver
Previous at this model I have never used the FMA receivers. I tried the new M5v2 Sub Micro Dual Conversion Receiver for 72MHz in this plane. I have tested it in dozens of flights without observing the minimum glitch. Therefore, I recommend you this high technology wonder, especially in small planes as mine. Two thumbs up to FMA, an American company that makes this remarkable product! I will never use any other receiver brand.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/11/2005 8:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most of the times I flight my park fliers in a grass landing place. Therefore, I placed two Dubro mini tail skids under my plane. This way it does not flip over when landing any more.
I also add a smaller third one (not seen in photo) to the tail.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/14/2005 10:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Milestone: 240 minutes of flying in this little and fabulous model!

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 11/30/2005 8:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		See also my reviews:

Cub J-3, LX Model http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3493283/tm.htm
World War I Fighter SE5A, LX Model http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3603733/tm.htm


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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 12/13/2005 11:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		This message, related to a crash and the losing of the C of G in other of my models, could be of your interest: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3603733/tm.htm

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 2/17/2006 5:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I ordered the (1/16 scale) 670mm wingspan tiger moth and am glad to hear all the good things. modelflight accidently sent me a larger experimental one with a (1/12 scale) 880mm wingspan, I will let you know how it goes but does anyone have experience with this larger model??

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 1/5/2007 3:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am very interested in the LX Model line. How can I get one directly from the manufacturer. When I log on to their site I only get the Korean symbols.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 1/5/2007 4:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Duvall:
The importers to US of the LXModel planes had been Giant Scale Planes ( www.giantscaleplanes.com ). I talked this morning to one of its representatives and he told me they do not foresee to continue bringing these airplanes to US. This is an unfair new because this line of small airplanes is very good, to great prices (brushless motor is included in each kit). At the moment www.giantscaleplanes.com has one SE-5A in stock. I would recomend it to you because I own one and I am very satisfied whit it. If you call Giant Scales Planes, please ask why they have dropped this airplanes line and tell us by means of this forum.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 1/5/2007 4:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you know the location of LX Models? I have a friend (Chinese) in Shanghai that I have sent an enquiry to. I advised the firm is owned/founded by a Korean. If I had more precise info, perhaps I could get a better fix on the situation.

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RE: Tiger Moth 370 by Lx Model www.giantscaleplanes.com - 1/5/2007 5:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		As you say the company belongs to a Korean man -Young J Lee- who has his factory at Weihei, China. Months ago I sent an e-mail congratulating him by his products and he answered me with the e-mail that you can find as message #6 in this same post. I wrote him to the e-mail nabiho@lxmodel.net

Good luck and let us know the result to your research.

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