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The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 7:32:02 AM   
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Hi,

This story isn't really r/c-related, but I thought you guys might find it interesting. It's kinda corny, but for aviation-nostalgia types like me, it has some meaning.

Earlier tonight, I took my wife and son to dinner at Hometown Buffet (I eat a lot, so they HATE to see me coming...). It was relatively full, and it took us a while to find a table against a wall (because my wife is nursing and she likes the extra privacy). We found one and started to have our dinner. It wasn't long before we noticed that the table next to us seated a bunch of unsupervised kids who belonged to an uninterested pair of women at yet another table. Across from the rowdy kids was seated an old man, alone, and not enjoying the noise and mess the kids were making. The kids were running around, throwing handfulls of salt at each other, shooting ice-cream toppings at each other through straws, etc. At one point, after giving the moms the 'hard stare' for a long while, I finally asked the kids to settle down, or at least stop bumping our table. When I said something to the kids, the moms began to say something unfriendly-sounding in a foriegn language. I smiled and said, "Lady, we're just trying to eat our dinner."

After a while, the old man got tired of salt and ice-cream sprinkles landing in or near his food, and decided to get up and try to relocate. Unfortunately, there was really nowhere else to sit. As he walked past us, with his food and drink in-hand, he noticed my son in his car-carrier. He immediately began to smile at him and make baby noises. He excitedly asked his age, told us he was cute, then started to try to tickle him under the chin. Now, normally I draw the line at people touching his face, but this poor guy seemed so irritated before--but now so suddenly happy. That's when he noticed the copy of Model Aviation that I had brought. Now, normally I don't have much use for that mag, but it's something that keeps showing up in the mail and it helps me tune the baby out when he starts fussing...

When he saw the magazine, he lit up like a Christmas tree! Before long, he was asking about models, engines, and whether anyone made a really nice model of an Me-262. Finally, I invited him to sit with us, and he gratefully accepted. The conversation went from 262s to modern model turbines. He was amazed at what I told him. When I asked about his fascination with 262s, he dropped the bomb: He was so interested in them because he had gotten a couple of shots off at one over the skies of Gernamy in WWII! He told me that he was at the controls of a P-51D for four months when he encountered his 262. He was at the controls for about 6 months when he was shot down and captured. He broke several bones by landing in a tree and spent several months as a POW.

At the time we met him, we were about ready to leave. We ended up staying there for another hour and a half. This fellow gave me advice on everything from safe civil aviation to 'love and marriage' to staying healthy by drinking red wine and dancing! He was a delightful old guy who loved life and loved talking. It was clear to me that he was very happy to have someone listening to him and treating him with the proper respect he deserved--not only as a vet, but as a senior citizen. By the time it was time to leave, he did tell me that my courtesy made up for the shameful behavior of those women who didn't care to corral their kids. He mourned the fact that young people these days don't seem to have an respect anymore. After that, he did a little two-step move, complete with a smile and a wink for my wife, then went on his way. Before he did, I stood up and shook his hand, then thanked him for his brave service to our nation and the world in our time of need. Then, he was gone.

After he left, I asked my wife if she saw the way he lit up when I showed him my magazine. She asked me if I saw the way I lit up when he told me he was a combat pilot in WWII. I really felt honored that he had dinner with us. I really felt like finding and choking those kids when I remembered the disdainful looks and comments they and their parents gave him when he moved away from their table. My folks taught me to respect my elders, and I'm glad they did, too. To some people in that dining hall, he was just some old man. It turned out he was a real live hero in a conflict where no less than the freedom of the world was at stake. I guess you just never know....

By the way, I let him keep the magazine.

To all you WWII vets (and all war veterans) who are RCU readers: Thank you for putting it on the line for the rest of us. I appreciate, admire and salute you all.


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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 8:38:51 AM   
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What a touching story what can i say but

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 10:27:30 AM   
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YellowAircraft!
Hooraugh! You were in the presence of a REAL American Hero, but would have not have been had you ignored him. I can't think of a better place for your story to be, unless it would be on the front page of every newspaper in the United States of America. I fly R/C airplanes as a hobby, most of them being Warbirds. I collect real military vehicles. I belong to the MVPA, the CAF, and the VFW. I am a Vietnam era and Gulf War Veteran. Thank you for your appreciation. I remember the 60's/70's, when the protestors spat on us. I remember the 90's when we were cheered and thanked when we returned home. Now, more than ever before, we must stand together in the fight for freedom. Should you ever get to meet the gentleman again, invite him to your R/C club meeting or even to your flying field. He just might show up. However, should you never see him again, you may get the feeling you met a ghost.

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 12:13:55 PM   
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Shaun,

That was indeed a great story. Being a warbird enthusiast I admire and respect the men and women who fought for freedom and the American way of life. The gentleman you met is indeed a hero in my book as well. I wish I could locate someone like him around here in Indianapolis that I can visit and interview. I would love to video the interview so I can relive it over and over. They won't be around much longer.
I am the newsletter editor for the Screaming Eagles R/C club in Plainfield, In (http://screamingeagles.org) and with your permission I would love to reprint your story, crediting you of course.
If you would like a copy email me around November and I will be happy to send you one.

Best regards,

Richard Wright
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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 1:24:05 PM   
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Great story Shaun!

Sometimes you get some great experiences like this at RC Model Mall Shows. I've seen WWII vets with tears in their eyes looking at nice warbird models, and telling you their war experiences.

But about 15 years ago at one Mall Show, I had a guy walk up to me after looking at all of the models and asked if anyone ever builds P-38 models. I told him that the twin engine models were not as common as the single engine ones, but that there were some P-38s around. He looked kind of sad and said that he sure would have liked to see one. This guy was obviously not old enough to be a WWII vet, so just before he started to walk off, I asked him why he had such a strong interest in the P-38. He stated that as a small boy during WWII, he lived on a hill overlooking a Japanese military base in the Phillipines. He used to sit on that hill and watch P-38s bomb and strafe the base. You should have seen the way his eyes lit up while talking about the destruction caused by the Lightnings. I sure wish I had known someone with a P-38 model at the time so that I could have set up a meeting.

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 6:19:55 PM   
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What a touching story some kids of the younger generation just dont have a lot of respect for older people, but what they forget is that most of these old farts gave them the freedom that they enjoy today and its sad that some of these kids do not realise that.
you had the pleasure of talking to one of these true hero's. When i lived in england before i moved to the U.S 3 years ago i was in the military, we used to attend all the rememberance parades and it filled me with so much pride to see these old men and women marching down the street, holding their heads up high as people stood and gave them the apprecation they deserved. every year i attended those parades the numbers of these hero's were falling. They are a dying generation and it is up to us to educate our children and teach them about how these people defended what we have today. Many paid the ultimate price and they should never be forgotten. they made the ultimate sacrifice.

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 7:44:02 PM   
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Hello,

I am a DDS at the Albuquerque VA and everynow and then, I would have some of my patients as WWII and VN fighter /bomber pilots. The stories that I heard was very amazing. It is sad to see them strugging to walk and talk knowing that they were fine able bodies many years back. Thank you Vets !!! DP

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 7:46:44 PM   
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Fantastic story... thanks for sharing!

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/12/2005 11:22:53 PM   
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Sean, Thanks for sharing this. I empathize as I recently had a similar outing on the tennis court.

Two older gentlemen were playing on the adjacent court to us, and after about an hour of grinding practice with the pro, and with me covered in sweat, one of them came up and politely said "Man, you guys are really good, I would love to hit some with you." I was kind of ashamed, as compared to the pro, I'm not sure my skills on the court warrant his praise so much, but the guy looked like he was really anxious to "have a go at the kids" and just wanted to see how HE stood up to the challenge as opposed to just having some fun.

I humbly thanked him for the compliment and said "Sure, let's go." We hit for about 15 minutes or so, and I could tell that at one time this guy was a good player. But, age had taken it's course a bit, and I could tell that he was really enjoying making me chase down some of his better shots. I knew what he must be thinking as I scrambled cross court to retrieve some of the more nasty ones.....("I KNEW I could still run these kids around" . When we finished we shook hands at the net and talked about where we were from and what I was doing up in his neighborhood to play tennis (it's about 35 minutes from my house). I said that not only was it a convenient location, but that the best hobby store in our area is only a few minutes away and that I was planning on stopping by there to pick up some stuff for my out of control r/c warbird fixation.

I knew he was of the age that he could appreciate the warbird thing, but just like you said Sean, his face lit up. "Really, you're into those planes eh?" He said he was really familiar with them "from the war". I asked about that; "From the war?" as it sounded like he might have some experience.

He then asked if I had heard of the USS Indianapolis. "Heard of it?" I replied, "I've read a couple of books on the story that really, really hit home about the kind of commitment and honor that these guys shared in the field--or rather in the water getting eaten by sharks". He shook his head sadly, asked if I knew about the PBY planes and I said, "Yeah, those guys who piloted those PBY's and plucked out all those sailors from the Indy in those waters are honest to God heroes." Smiling, he told me that HE was one of those guys in the PBY's. My jaw hit the ground. I was truly in the presence of an American hero. I wanted to sit there for hours and talk to him about his experiences, let him know there are still young people who know about and respect the bravery and commitment that guys like him made for the country and their fellow men. He was so unassuming, so shy about what he did, yet so obviously proud to have been a part of it all and happy to have found a young person (I'm 38) who knew the whole story already without having to have a history lesson. I was proud myself. Not only to have the honor of meeting a guy like this, but also because I knew that my interest and knowledge of the people and events that happened with the Indy were satisfying to someone who obviously felt that none of these youngsters know anything about what we did out there.

I think about this meeting all the time. It really made an impression on me, and made me proud to have an interest, and knowledge of, and therefore, respect for those who made, or are continuing to make this type of commitment for their fellow men. It is something that I think most of the younger generation does not, and could not understand without a dedication to understanding what it is this special breed of fellows (and ladies) is or has been faced with and imagining how each one of us would respond if faced with this. How would we feel? How would we respond? How would we be different? There's a reason these guys are called "The greatest generation."

Thanks again for posting Sean. Hopefully more guys will come forward with similar stories.

Mike

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/13/2005 1:46:38 AM   
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Great posts, fellows, and I find them quite appropriate for this audience.

Bravo, all.
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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/13/2005 3:17:20 AM   
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Like a lot of folks, I like to go to Reno in September so I can hear a half-dozen Merlins purring around the pylons during the National Air Races. Whether I get to go has a lot to do with work schedules, but 1986 I managed make the trip; wasn't all that diffucult because we lived in Santa Maria at the time. These days I have to fly from hotLanta, and I _hate_ what TSA has done to aviation.

If you go to the races, you can rub elbows with some pretty famous folks. If you're on active duty, wear your uniform. Chuck Yeager will likely drag you into his show center box seat and stick a beer in your hand. You can be awed by the "Energy Conservation" routine of Yeager's old chase plane buddy from the Bell X-1 days at Edwards, "Bob" Hoover. Hoover is a hero in his own right, if for nothing else than having forced FAA to restore his medical certificate.

There are lots of famous folks to be spotted at Reno if you're there at the right time of year.

In '90 my kid got loose from work in San Diego and met us at the airport (Cannon, not Stead). During one evening while we were there he landed at a blackjack table along with two Snowbirds and their wives. Not "snowbirds" as in those who head South to get away from Canadian Winter, Snowbirds as in those who tool around in CT-114 Tutors. The wives decided to adopt him, and when he finally found our hotel room he was well and truly sloshed. Tristan still talks about that to this day, only in his version he got all of them roaring drunk.

Anyway, during the '86 races I was prowling around the vendor area wondering which food stand had the least evil hot dogs that year, and I saw an old guy sitting at a table under a sun canopy. He looked to me like he'd been rode hard and put away wet way too many times.

He was selling paper back copies of his book, and I bought one even though I had scored a first edition hard copy a decade or so earlier. The old gent was kind enough to autograph it for me, but of course he did that for everyone.

I got fumble lipped, but he smiled and nodded because even though I babbled like an idiot I think he understood I was trying to thank him for what he did all those many years ago in the South Pacific. I'm sure I was just another face to him, but encountering a living American legend is a moment I won't forget.

I missed the '87 races, and by the time the '88 races rolled around the old hero had lost his fight with cancer.

The paper copy of that book can't be all that unique because I'm sure he signed every copy he sold in person, and I doubt that it's worth all that much in money, but I'd like to think that someone who knows the story of that old man and the amazing record VMF-214 ran up in three months' time under his leadership, will consider the autographed copy a real prize when my own 'estate' goes up for grabs.

I have two copies of "Baa Baa Black Sheep", and one of them bears the autograph of Gregory Boyington.

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/13/2005 3:51:32 AM   
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We are losing them all at at greater and greater rate. Three weeks ago we lost an old P-38 pilot that had continued flying after the war and had continued modeling up to his death. His name was Robert "Bob" Almes. If you look in the Model Airplane News plans listings you will find his P-38 fowler flap mechanism design. Bob built and flew large scale P-38 models and was well known here in the Southwest.
We owe all of these people a great debt that can now only be repaid by keeping their memories alive and passing on the model building to another generation.
I use the Gremlin Castle signature as a tribute to my uncle. His B-24 carried that name supposedly because of the continuing string of things that went wrong with it.

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RE: The People You Run Into... - 10/13/2005 4:00:29 AM   
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