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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 1:14:24 PM   
StubbornSwiss



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ORIGINAL: SpitfireMKI
I'm going back to busting on Jake's thread, this one sucks.

Bye Mike........!!

Blessings!

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 1:14:46 PM   
SpitfireMKI



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Kelly,

You're right, I thought those folks were friends of someone's and had permission to be there. I usually tell spectators to stay back. Sometimes they want to come around and check a plane out, that's ok when escorted. And yes the grand poobah was there so he has safety control duties. I think I had just stopped by from work ? I do not recall being there to fly.

In your case, since it seems there is some ill feelings here.

A) As a flight Instructor, the student's aircraft should not have been in the student's control as soon as it crossed the pit line. That is the mistake you made.

B) The fact that some members and the FSM were laughing at a serious situation in front of those spectators and other members was not a good image to portray and now may think that this kind of thing is normal and ok to let happen.

C) I do not think you should be punished. It was a mistake and those happen. I do not think the FSM or myself should have barbequed your ass either. I could see that you were concerned but others were not. I think a more serious tone to the situation would have been better.

As an after the fact we can look back and laugh, thankfully no one was hurt. Sure beats looking back and crying.

Do to my lack of ability to identify and do my job. I hereby withdraw from my position as a Safety Marshall. Done deal, don't want it, I can see the direction we are heading and it stirs up memories of the past.

I've lobbied for those signs for about three years now, never gets anywhere. I would pay for them myself if I could afford it.

MODEL AIRCRAFT ARE DANGEROUS
BEWARE AND REMAIN BEHIND FENCE
AT ALL TIMES UNLESS ESCORTED
AMA MEMBERS ONLY

Or whatever..........


MT

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 2:24:41 PM   
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No ill feeling at all, I was just using it as an example since we were
both there that night.

point A:
I agree it was totally my fault the plane got so far out of line.

point B:
I think everyone was just shocked that I was able to keep the plane flying.
(all skill by the way)

point C:
I agree, but not about the Grand Poohba comment, is there any way you
and Keith can talk over your differences and bury the hatched (not in each
others heads)?

I don't know about the past, only been here for a year.

As for you withdrawing as safety officer... that is a personal decision you
have to make, however it was not my intent in pointing out the discrepancy
and I would hope you will reconsider.

I will stand by you 100% for the signs, I have never heard it mentioned.
A great example was the fly in... the signs did there job, with little to no
involvement from us.

Another plus to the signs is that anyone in the club can just point them out
to spectators without needing backup.

Anyway, I am dropping this all together, I just want to fly and let everyone else
fly. I hate politics, and I did not join the club to make enemies. Everyone has
been great to me since I have joined and I hope it stay's that way.

Like Lee said, lets post the funny crap and forget this junk.



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ORIGINAL: SpitfireMKI

Kelly,

You're right, I thought those folks were friends of someone's and had permission to be there. I usually tell spectators to stay back. Sometimes they want to come around and check a plane out, that's ok when escorted. And yes the grand poobah was there so he has safety control duties. I think I had just stopped by from work ? I do not recall being there to fly.

In your case, since it seems there is some ill feelings here.

A) As a flight Instructor, the student's aircraft should not have been in the student's control as soon as it crossed the pit line. That is the mistake you made.

B) The fact that some members and the FSM were laughing at a serious situation in front of those spectators and other members was not a good image to portray and now may think that this kind of thing is normal and ok to let happen.

C) I do not think you should be punished. It was a mistake and those happen. I do not think the FSM or myself should have barbequed your ass either. I could see that you were concerned but others were not. I think a more serious tone to the situation would have been better.

As an after the fact we can look back and laugh, thankfully no one was hurt. Sure beats looking back and crying.

Do to my lack of ability to identify and do my job. I hereby withdraw from my position as a Safety Marshall. Done deal, don't want it, I can see the direction we are heading and it stirs up memories of the past.

I've lobbied for those signs for about three years now, never gets anywhere. I would pay for them myself if I could afford it.

MODEL AIRCRAFT ARE DANGEROUS
BEWARE AND REMAIN BEHIND FENCE
AT ALL TIMES UNLESS ESCORTED
AMA MEMBERS ONLY

Or whatever..........


MT



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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 2:46:39 PM   
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Advent ...nice song at least you did come up with some thing that sounded cool, for this I commend you. Nice Job

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 3:39:08 PM   
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On the lighter side is:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3481856/tm.htm

Please no politics in the build and crash area.


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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/23/2005 7:41:30 PM   
SpitfireMKI



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I post pictures and you started back with the politics buddy !

As for Keith and myself, the only problem must be over there because I have not said anything of a problem. Keith and I have had a round or two at each other, prefer not to make it a third for nothing. I just did not like the way that event was handled. But it's over and done.

Now let's go get the heli pilot in question and burn him at the stake and all will be well and cheery again.


Now, I am making the deal on my Mustang D model even more appealing ! Here it is:

H9 P-51 1.50 glassed ready for paint, you saw it at the cookout.
Robart retracts with scale type struts
RCS 1.80 gasser w/ B+B muffler, flies this plane fantastic.

and a Concept 30 Helicopter ready to fly with JR TX.

All for $800.00, how can anyone resist that ? Especially the helicopter ? No deals, that price is firm.

MT

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 1:24:43 AM   
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hmmm who are you talkin about......hmmmmmmm

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 2:03:07 AM   
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i belive the person in question is the same one who accused me of shooting him down on a training night long ago....hmmmmmm. thats just my guess, Im not into all this politics and crap. I just want to fly, but now that its almost november i guess i should put i up for another year. hell no i think the first snow there should be a flying contest on skies.

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 11:21:13 AM   
SpitfireMKI



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Man, you're pretty smart when you wanna be Chriswhousetoflyalot ! You know you caused him to crash in the parking lot. You just look like the type, regardless of what channel you are on.

How about this, night time sky equipped flying on snow ! Yeah baby !

MT

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 8:37:43 PM   
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Well that should be fun to watch.....

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 9:38:09 PM   
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Why stop there? Night time equipped, snow ready, full contact combat! Now that's a night out!
Add a few wenches and a dozen pints or so of Guinness (for the spectators, of course) and you got a real event going now!


PS: OOPS, now i've said it! Maybe I should have checked first but are we allowed to even joke about drinking beer here in the FSA Clubhouse or does that too have the look of impropriety?


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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 9:50:41 PM   
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God I hope we can Joke about it............................LMAO.

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RE: FSA Clubhouse - 10/24/2005 10:54:10 PM   
SpitfireMKI



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I say old chap, a blond in a black skirt for me Irish mate here and I'll take a pint of Bitter.............mmmmmmmm.......after todays stressful flying (15 mph steady with gust up to 30 mph, should have seen the fullscalers bouncing around !) a trip down th' pub would be quite refreshing ! Man, I need a holiday over the pond bad !


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