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RE: Basic - 11/23/2005 7:12:42 PM   
Steve Campbell


 

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Just a long-winded way of saying, "Allow us our impressions. We'll find out how it really is, soon enough."

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RE: Basic - 11/23/2005 9:02:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		hold on guys. ed has a wealth of experience, and even if that experienced is tainted, as you say, i don't see any reason why that should not be shared. i know ed gave a tremendous amount of his time to developing imac in his region, and he got digusted with the direction that the leadership was going - the "lets be like IAC" mantra gets pretty tiring. btw, i wrote the actual language for the imac centering rule, which I was very sorry to see go. it's not much fun trying to judge a four point roll that is completely displaced to one side of the pilot.

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RE: Basic - 11/23/2005 9:26:24 PM   
budgetdude



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Status: offline 		There is no doubt that he has a knowledge base that could be very helpful to us aspiring flyers. Pattern is cool, pattern airplanes are really cool. There will always be the price and equipment battle but hey, call ZIVCO and see how much it cost to buy and maintain an Edge for a contest season. This thread was started to give the new competitors a place to hook up and ask basic questions. I really like the fact that the experienced guys jump in to give guidance so please keep it up.

Does anyone know what you have to do to fly sportsman at the Nat's?

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RE: Basic - 11/24/2005 3:27:32 AM   
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To fly Sportsman at the NATS, you just have to sign up and show up. I'm not sure of the dates for this year, but last year it was the week of July 4. There will be info on the IMAC site once everything has been confirmed. I hope to see you there!

Ken

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RE: Basic - 11/24/2005 5:03:54 AM   
budgetdude



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Status: offline 		OK sweet, I will be practicing both sequences.

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RE: Basic - 11/24/2005 3:15:56 PM   
ROGER RUSSELL



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ORIGINAL: budgetdude


Does anyone know what you have to do to fly sportsman at the Nat's?



Finish above me as I finished "LAST AT THE NATS" last year in Sportsman, but had a blast and will be going back again next year to defend my title.

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, the knowns and better yet, PRACTICE UNKNOWNS to you.

Pick out maneuver's in the IMAC catalog in Sportsman and go fly them.
or
Keep the UNKNOWNS of the contests you fly before you go to the NATS and practice them.
or
Some web sites post last years UNKNOWNS, print them out and practice them

HAVE FUN doing it, here in the NC region we are lucky to have some good contest and good CDs and great flying buddies

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RE: Basic - 11/28/2005 6:46:58 AM   
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RE: Basic - 12/13/2005 12:13:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just signed up for the south central bootcamp. It is in Mt Pleasant Texas and should be good chance to learn the basics.
Here is the link:

http://www.easttexasaeromodelers.org/page3.html

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RE: Basic - 12/13/2005 1:03:30 AM   
budgetdude



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Status: offline 		This is off the same site it has a ton of good info.

http://www.easttexasaeromodelers.org/bbcwb.zip

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RE: Basic - 12/15/2005 2:50:08 AM   
Dangerous Dan



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Status: offline 		I flew basic last year and did ok. In three contests I finished in the middle of the pack. I have a lot of book smartness when It comes to IMAc but need to educate my thumbs. I have been Contest Director for 5 IMAC's been to F&J seminars and read every book ever published on RC Scale aerobatics setup etc...about 10 times each.

I don't think a new pilot should practice the entire sequence right away, he/she needs to braek down the sequence and concentrate on individual maneuvers and drawing a straight line in between. Each maneuver needs to be practiced right to left and left to right..

Here is my plan, I will fly this flight plan two times before attempting the entire 2006 sequence.


Flight 1.......5 minutes Humpty Bump both ends with straight line inbetween
5 minutes Cuban 8 both ends with a straight line inbetween
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind(or practice the chalenging slow roll)

Flight 2......5 Minutes Hammerhead Both ends straight lines in between
5 minutes reverse cuban Both ends and you guessed it straight lines inbetween
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind(or practice the chalenging slow roll)

Flight 3......5 Minutes reverse sharks tooth both ends straight lines in between
5 minutes Immelman on right split Ess left straight lines in between
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind

Flight 4.....5 minutes of Immelman on Left Split Ess on left straight lines inbetween
5 Minutes of humpty bumpe each end with a roll at center straight lines before and after roll
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind

Flight 5.....5 minutes of Rev Cuban each end with the dreaded loop at center
.....5 minutes Rev Sharks tooth each end with Figure 9's at center
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind, or practicing more loops that I just messsed up on

Flight 6.....5 minutes of Immelman and 1.5 turn Spin Immelman on right Spin at center
5 minutes of Immelman and 1.5 turn Spin Immelman on left Spin at center
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind

Flight 7 5 minutes of Loops and Hammer each end
5 minutes of 9's and cuban eights each end
5 minutes of sport flying to clear my mind.

At this time you know what your weak maneuvers are, you might spend a few flights practicing them, then repeat the 7 flights above again,you will never be able to competatly fly the whole sequence until you have some level of confidence on the above 7 flights.

Once you have flown the above seven flights then try the first half of the sequence, then the second 1/2 then the whole sequence, then the whole sequence back to back two times.

If you find a maneuver that you are having problems then practice it with symmetry...for example if you are having trouble with loops don't just fly loop after loop fly the maneuver before and/or after the loop to set you up. Example... in the 2006 basicc you have reverse cuban/loop/hammer...If you want to practice loops then either do rev cuban/loop/rev cuban/loop etc.. or loop/hammer/loop/hammer...etc.. this will get you to practice loops from left to right and right to left with the proper setup..

anyway that is my worthless 0.02

great luck in 2006

10's

Dan P

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RE: Basic - 12/15/2005 1:56:43 PM   
Steve Campbell


 

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Status: offline 		Excellent suggestion, Dan.

Hopefully I can get started on getting the plane trimmed this week-end; been fighting a balky engine set-up.

Your idea sounds like the way to go for a total beginner.

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RE: Basic - 12/18/2005 7:48:51 PM   
PaulBK


 

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Status: offline 		basic pilots..keep in mind that all figures are not weighted equally. K factors for a hammerhead with nothing on it is almost twice that of a loop...the loop is arguably harder yet has less impact on the final score. spend your time perfecting the high K figures, and examiningg the figure to find the trouble spots. don't obssess or spend too much time on the low K stuff.

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RE: Basic - 12/19/2005 3:02:37 AM   
Steve Campbell


 

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Status: offline 		Guess I missed that... I thought all of the Basic manuevers had the same K factor???

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RE: Basic - 12/19/2005 3:19:11 AM   
PaulBK


 

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Status: offline 		Steve, not sure what you are looking at, but the K's are listed on the sequence on the IMAC site. K factors are computed using the FAI catalog and are unique for each figure - it's been that way for many years for all the classes.

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