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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/3/2006 10:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I pulled them out, roughed em up with sandpaper and epoxied them back into place with 30 minute epoxy and milled fibergalass. I smeared a liberal amount around the mounts and wing sheeting in those areas aswell with an acid brush to strengthen any other damage that I might not be able to see. Has held very well. No problems.


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Thanks Maudib...I'm gonna opt for the "last option" hardwood dowels. I know they won't move.



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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/7/2006 9:32 PM   
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I imagine I'd run into balance issues...

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/7/2006 11:41 PM   
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I just reglued on the inside. I also drilled the anti-rotation pins so I can install safety pins inside the fuselage (only two of them).

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I was lucky. The only problem that I had with mine was a small crack in the canopy which I easily repaired with a drop of CA and a strip of black trim tape. Now, again guys...what are you doing to keep the anti-rotation pins from backing out of the wings???? I tried CA, but it's not holding.



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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/22/2006 9:54 PM   
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Status: online 		I have been reading about this plane after the review in rcuniverse. Model Airplane did a review w/out doing the weight saving mods that the guy on rcuniverse did when he put in his Da 50CC and he seemed pleased after the weight loss. I was thinking about the evolution (MVVS) 45cc but I would have to go and do all of those expensive carbon fiber mods to get it to have that excess power that everyone needs to have when they get in trouble when on the deck... I though about the Evolution 58cc but this is a tank. I have a 400$ credit and Horizon Hobby and thought that this would work. Has anyone used a evolution 58 in this plane? Has anyone installed a tuned pipe or cannisters on this plane. This may have been talked about but there are just too many replies to lurk through for the answers.........
Any help would be appreciated......
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/22/2006 10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Justin...I don't remember anyone using the Evo 58 in this thread, but heck, give it a shot...

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/22/2006 10:43 PM   
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I was me who did the review and shared the lightening mods... and yes I was pretty happy with the results with a DA50...

The 58 would be a great choice for this airplane... and if you did only the mods that did not include extra cost (like XF items) you'd have yourself a pretty well powered airplane...

For that matter... you might not need any mods at all... maybe use a pul-pull rudder so that it would balance easier... or do the tail mods and use a tail rudder servo...

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/22/2006 11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dave a friend of mine has one, seriously lightened with the 58 up front. The all up wt is 17 1/2 lbs and the performance is unlimited. He was going to make a video but none of us are good enough to really show the capability.....maybe at a later date?

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/26/2006 4:35 AM   
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I am looking very hard at the Lanier 87" plane as a cheaper throw around plane.

Right now I favor the Edge over the Yak just because it it looks like it comes in about 1/2 - 3/4 pounds less with the same wing area. Also, I think the Edge may be slightly more stable at lower speed at a heavier wing loading.

It will most likely be powered with a 60 to 80cc single cylinder and cheaper Digital 56X5MG servos that I have on hand.

Anyone have any input that would confirm or deny my leaning toward the Edge over the Yak?

Thanks and Happy holidays all.


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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/27/2006 10:26 PM   
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Status: online 		Great review!
Do you have some pict's of a pull pull install on this plane? What have those that have built with no mods and a 70-80cc saying? Too heavy? I would probably just do the back fuse, rudder and cockpit lightening for starters. What about the new 55cc BME, although it hasn't been released yet... engine weighing in a 2.1 (engine and spark) saving a full pound at begineing would be nice...
I currently have a 1/3 cap 580 that has a 100DA going in it and a TF giant P-51 with a 64cc, and a funtana100X with a 120 ax in it......
Thought also about the GP ultimate 1.60 bi-pane... Being I have never had a bi-plane should I get one of these instead of the yak54?
Perhaps the 1/3cap 580 and the yak will fly so much similar that I would have wished I had some variance and gotten the bi-plane.???? So far no issues with this plane (GP 1.60 Ultimate) except landing gear issues.....
It sounds like you have had much experience with many different planes so any input would be greatly appreciated.... Or anyone else that would like to express their opinion.....
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Kochj,

I was me who did the review and shared the lightening mods... and yes I was pretty happy with the results with a DA50...

The 58 would be a great choice for this airplane... and if you did only the mods that did not include extra cost (like XF items) you'd have yourself a pretty well powered airplane...

For that matter... you might not need any mods at all... maybe use a pul-pull rudder so that it would balance easier... or do the tail mods and use a tail rudder servo...



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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/27/2006 11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys, well I am posting pictures of what I did with the Yak. first carbon fiber around the engine box. Nylon screws taped into 5 wooden blocks to hold the cowling. Also a double thickness of the piece that comes down from the canopy, and then enlarge the slot that is part of the fuse. I have a Duralite power board the 40/16, I have 4 servos for ailorons. two for elevator, one for rudder. I have a fiber optic engine cut off switch. manual choke. I will post a few more pics on what else I did. I also reinforced inside the engine box with carbon fiber, and also the landing gear plate. I am using a pull pull system for rudder. I have two Lithium Ion bat of 2900.
The picture of the plane on the floor, is a pic taken last wednesday athe the St. Justines Hospital for Children. Our Zone MAAC gave a donation to the Childrens hospital and my Yak was the backdrop for this occasion. I also forgot to mention, it is a First Place engine, with 70cc of power. Should do the trick. This is my third FPE. I have a 40cc and a 52cc all run with great reliability.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/27/2006 11:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		You will also notice in the above pics, re the tail gear. I put in two blind nuts and one wooden screw. The reason, is I do not like only wooden screws as they can come loose. Also if something happens or breaks, easing with the blind nut system. It is a carbon fiber tail gear set up. I also changed the wheels to a lite 4" metal hub with a nylon bearing. So I did enlarge the opening of the wheel pants, I modified the inside of the wheel pants so it would sit higher, and also carbon fiber oveer the ply on the inside of the wheel pant.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/27/2006 11:27 PM   
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/27/2006 11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am also using 6 rubber engine mounts as you can see. The FPE comes with 6 holes on the back plate. The plane finished weighs 23lbs. I do not own one plane that is the weight of the builders specs. All my planes are heavier. Which I like as I fly almost every day close to 90 gallons a year. We fly in very high winds, up to 25 miles per hour. So in my case would rather a heavier plane, as I do not do 3 D but fly IMAC. My personal view, you can go crazy with weight loss. My Super Stearman has close to 1000 flights with a FPE40cc and is still in one piece. My Wild Hare Edge 540T with the FPE52cc has over 400 flights and is still like new. I am in the 3rd winter with the Super Stearman. My Waco with the 40cc has 200 flights this year. It is a new plane for me and is like new. I am sure if I did litening tricks to it, in some of my hard landings, there woujld of been repairs. I also use the B&B landing gear reinforcements where the landing gears allow to use this system. I have it on the Edge and on the Waco.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 12:04 AM   
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 12:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice work MGA... thanks for sharing all the great pics too!

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 2:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		MGA are you the fellow who stopped by our field (Shoe Factory) last summer, just west of Chicago....you had your red Waco with the 40CC FPE and just started flying IMAC after a hiatus of several years?

If so i'm the short, fat, gray headed fellow who had the EF YAK...

thx...just curious?
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 3:12 AM   
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 3:23 AM   
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I just tried to go onto both brison, and FPE and neither of their web sites work? Any go out of business? Wanted to check prices...?


kochj, You will need to go to http://www.kangkeusa.com/ to get the brison engines as they are the distributor for them now. They are presently being manufactured in Canada.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 4:40 AM   
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Status: online 		Thanks, You are correct... Wow!! kangke has completely redesigned their web page.
I was on the FPE website for sales and that was the one the didn't work... The main web page works fine.....
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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 5:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lou, yes I am the same guy that you met in Chicago with the Waco. Here is the web site for the FPE http://www.fpengines.com/ and Bisson mufflers web site is http://www.bissonmufflers.com/en/index.html I just went to both sites and both are working. Lou what is the web site of the EF Yak. and you might of been short and fat with a beard, but you are very good looking, so don't give up.
I just want to make sure, are you the fellow that just retired American airlines, I think. That is me with the Wild Hare Edge 540T with the 52ccFPE, and my Waco in flight with the FPE 40cc, and me back in 68 with myF&M reed set and my Phil Kraft Kwik Fly pattern ship.


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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 5:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the one that wanted pics of the pull pull on the Yak, here is what I did. pretty simple and no play whatsoever on the Rudder. I use this same system on all my pull pull. Hope this helps.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 6:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Brison motors and Bisson mufflers are not the same company. even though some people think they sound the same. Bisson mufflers are nice people to deal with. They are a family business, and the father and son both fly IMAC.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 7:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey man thanks for those nice pic's i just got one of this yak's for the simple reason that lanierrc.com the manufacture got them on sale until tomorrow, with free shippintg and 20% off a total of 408.00 in my door step, I was impress with this airplane because the size of it. I got 7 yak's from all diferent manufactures and this one is the biggest in the so call 30% range 50CC. Nice plane and nice pic's thanks. same goes for you maudib. Happy new year to all.

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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 7:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where did you see the Yak on sale. went to the Lanier web site, nothing there.


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RE: Lanier Yak - 12/28/2006 7:35 AM   
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Lou, yes I am the same guy that you met in Chicago with the Waco. Here is the web site for the FPE http://www.fpengines.com/ and Bisson mufflers web site is http://www.bissonmufflers.com/en/index.html I just went to both sites and both are working. Lou what is the web site of the EF Yak. and you might of been short and fat with a beard, but you are very good looking, so don't give up.
I just want to make sure, are you the fellow that just retired American airlines, I think. That is me with the Wild Hare Edge 540T with the 52ccFPE, and my Waco in flight with the FPE 40cc, and me back in 68 with myF&M reed set and my Phil Kraft Kwik Fly pattern ship.



OK well good to hear from you! My EF YAK is dead....met a horrible death. Very long story and if i told you, you most likely would not believe it but basically I fell on it walking it to the flight line and broke its' back and it proceeded to take off on its' own. The guys said it never looked so good in the air....but that's another story! LOL!

Here's the link....looks like the weather is not too bad up your way this winter? Nice pictures!


http://www.extremeflightrc.com/

Take care, Lou


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