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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/2/2006 7:46:32 PM   
jimk2


 

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From: Houghton Le Spring, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		I ran the SP1 befor the Sp2 and I had it set up and running excellent. The SP2 seemed really different, The steering was excellent but I kept toppling it, I was getting a lot of grip roll until I changed tyhe tyres.

When I built it it only came with an SP1 manual and a Pro set up sheet. I'm quite interested in what rear camber suits this buggy (turnbuckle measurement)

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/4/2006 3:32:11 AM   
clone3



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Status: offline 		run 3 deg in the rear(1 /2 each side)--------if you still are getting alot of traction roll----cutt-off the outside row of lugs on the tires.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/4/2006 3:46:06 AM   
clone3



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Status: offline 		jimk-----change your oil in the rear to: 40 and run the universals level all the way around-----toss the tcd for the standard and run 4-5 in the front-----run 6 in the center/if track is really bumpy run 5. run 2 in the rear.--------run 1 1/2-2 deg toe out with 22 deg caster blocks. run 2.5 deg antisquat with 3 deg toe-in + 3 deg camber in the rear-----run proline crime fighters with the grey insert and featherlite rims------run allum shoes with 1.0 springs-----note------if track is really loose run carbon shoes or drop down 1 mm with a carb restrictor----you could also try to arc the throttle on your radio if you have that function---------
------------------------the sp2 likes to be pushed hard and fast-----the car will handle better the harder you push it-------have fun

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/4/2006 5:16:21 PM   
jimk2


 

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From: Houghton Le Spring, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		Thanks for the advice guys. I spent most of yesterday evening altering my set up on the sp2.

It handled a lot better today, And I have removed TCD and am runing 5-7-1, 50wt shock oil front and 40 rear.

I was thinking about adding a carb resticter today as the 421B seems to have too much power especially bottom end.

Thanks again Clone3 for the additional advice It will be used and I know where to ask for other qusestions.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/8/2006 9:34:11 PM   
jimk2


 

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From: Houghton Le Spring, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		Well I competetively raced my SP2 for the first time with the set up given, It handled very well and stuck to the track, The steering I would say was a bit of a let down though. I seemed to have a lot of over steer. Evertime I tried to corner at speed it would head wide. I extended my EPA to the max but gained very little. The track was hard compact clay like surface and very wet so I moved up to angle spikes for the final.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/8/2006 10:16:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jimk2

Well I competetively raced my SP2 for the first time with the set up given, It handled very well and stuck to the track, The steering I would say was a bit of a let down though. I seemed to have a lot of over steer. Evertime I tried to corner at speed it would head wide. I extended my EPA to the max but gained very little. The track was hard compact clay like surface and very wet so I moved up to angle spikes for the final.


Sounds like under steer rather than over steer to me.
Mine always under steer when entering a corner on power. I just let off the gas and it dives right in (this is the SP1 with TCD in front).

For increased stability I've been running 1 deg toe-in up front and it works real good. It took out some of the twitchy feeling. Slightly less turn-in but way more stable. Moving the shocks to the inner hole on the shock tower gave back some front grip.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/8/2006 11:00:59 PM   
marcmt88


 

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Status: offline 		Hi all,
I just got a RB concept c5 engine and would like to know what is the best pipe and manifolod for this engine. Thanks.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/9/2006 5:22:19 PM   
jimk2


 

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Status: offline 		I have just purchased the C6, I heard the RB 2020 pipe suits the new RB range and is efra legal too as it is 3 chamber.

And SManMTB thanks for correcting me your right it is under steer

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/9/2006 8:33:06 PM   
clone3



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Status: offline 		the 2020 is a great pipe choice for that mill---once broke-in a race tunned you will only get 6-6 1/2 min on a tank with that setup. We swithched to the RB 063 pipe with the long header and run the 7mm restrictor------we are getting 8 mins a tank.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/14/2006 9:17:34 PM   
mgtman


 

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From: elmwood park, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		sp2 after last weeks race
diffs 5,7,3
steering servo hitech 5955t
throthle futuba s9350
novarossi p5x
mugen 1005 pipe and header combo
shock 45w front
40w back
carbon fiber shoes
mugen 1.0 springs
sportworks anadized hardened 14 t clutchbell
she ran very sweet just a little more practice on my part
tires are bold couse i just did a little more tunning on the street and those are the tires i use to tune and break in






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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/14/2006 10:01:27 PM   
SManMTB



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How did you like it mgtman?


Very similar to what I'm going to run mine with:

Diffs (f,c,r): 3,4,2
Shocks (f,r): 45, 40. SP1 blue springs
13t clutch
Kyosho 1.0mm clutch springs + racers edge black teflon/carbon

TTR PRO21B-R + OS T-2050. 8mm carb insert + home made engine mods. Ran 7mm insert in the SP1 a week ago but I need a bit more top end power.

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/14/2006 10:14:46 PM   
mgtman


 

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Status: offline 		how did i like it cant even describe it ,i cant belive i waited that long
the steering was amazing and i have to get used to it a little, powered great around the tight turns .
its the steering and the power coming in and out of turns that still has me in shock .made the a main did not place but did have a huge smile on my face ,so i would say i like it extremly
easiest thing i raced by far

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/14/2006 10:38:54 PM   
jimk2


 

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From: Houghton Le Spring, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		Mine is similar to this except I have 55wt front and 22 deg hubs with 2k in rear diff, Copied from another drivers set up.

Front
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Diff 5000 Kyosho
Shock oil 60 Trinity
Shock spring Blue Kyosho
Shock spacer 4 mm
Shock piston stock white (1.4 mm?)
Shock position in front arm – Inside
Shock position at tower - middle hole
Caster block 20 degree
A-Block
L-Block
Stock/default A-B and L-H bushing
Upper arm pos on chub - middle
SP2 short upper arm used
Toe in – 0 degree
Camber – 4 degree
Steering plate C / rear position
Roll bar – stock – flush with the ball position/ 0 mm


Center
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Diff 7000 Kyosho
Stock spur and pinion gear 46/13
Black Kyosho clutch shoe with RB WS72


Rear
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Diff 3000 Kyosho
Shock 40 Trinity
Spring Green Kyosho
Shock spacer 10mm
Shock piston stock white (1.4mm?)
Shock position in rear arm - Inside
Shock position at tower – upper row – second from inside
Wheel base 3mm spacer front - 2 mm spacer rear
Rear hub pos – under
Upper arm position on hub – outer / longest
Upper arm position on tower – inner – lowest position
Roll bar – stock – flush position / 0 mm
Toe in 3 degree
Camber 4 degree
Gold 2 degree plate

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RE: OFFICIAL KYOSHO MP777-SP1/SP2 THREAD - 5/19/2006 12:11:05 PM   
saintlouis


 

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From: DipologZamboanga del Norte, PHILIPPINES
Status: offline 		Hey guys check this 777 sp2 http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/galleryCat.cfm?memberId=252092

The front knuckle arm of my SP2 is already a Hyper 7 CNC Knuckle arm for only $30.00
Will you guys tell me what else should i do with my SP2. thx in advance. i put my diecast knuckle arm on my hyper because i like the KSP2 more than anything else in the world.

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