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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 3:06:18 AM   
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WooHoo! Thanks! Yes, please keep us novices in mind when approaching this product. The flowcharts are pretty easy to follow and I think you have given me the missing piece of the puzzle. I'm off tonight to try out some different types of batteries on the Triton!

Thanks again.


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 6:01:21 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by redscho
For right now I would recommend that you stick with 1/3C for charge rate with a cut off at 4.1 volts. [/QUOTE]

Hi red, how do you determine the proper cut off voltage for any given cell ? Does it depend on the charge rate and number of cells ? Thanks...........

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 6:21:21 AM   
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When we are talking DISCHARGE cut off:

The cut off voltage is set by the type of cell, not the size or capacity. Of course if you are discharging at a very high rate the cut off can be lower. But in our use, normally to determine the battery capacity in the C/5 discharge region (than this is good for discharges up to C rate) the recommended cut offs are:

Ni-Cd/Ni-MH V cut off = (N-1) X 0.9volts, where N= the number of cells. Or if you don't want to mess with the math just use 0.9 volts/cell - this is good for as many cells as we find in the hobby application.

For Lithium systems the cut off is 2.5 volts, for saftey use 3.0 volts because there is very little left between 2.5 and 3.0 anyway. CHECK THE MANUFACTURER'S SPECS - AS THIS NUMBER IS SOMEWHAT FLUID AT PRESENT, DEPENDING ON THE ACTUAL CELL DESIGN.

The CHARGE cut off for constant potential systems (Lithium) is set by the manufacturer. It is usually 4.1 volts per cell, which would give you 12.3 volts for a 3 cells (in series) Lithium system.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 7:34:08 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by redscho

The CHARGE cut off for constant potential systems (Lithium) is set by the manufacturer. It is usually 4.1 volts per cell, which would give you 12.3 volts for a 3 cells (in series) Lithium system.
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Thanks Red ! What is the recommended charge cut off voltage for NiCd and NiMH ? ................

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 9:12:15 AM   
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I think he said .9v/cell

Looking forward to the full fleged review, and more users' commentary. I'm planning on the Dym. ST but now this Triton threw a wrench in the situation.

Rob

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 10:41:13 AM   
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I got to play with the Triton a bit this evening. I'm beginning to get the feel of it. As I have said before, I am pretty much the forever novice, so the former is high praise for the Triton; I think I understand it

Of course, we as modelers cannot leave well enough alone. I replaced the alligator clips with a male cigarette lighter plug and tried it out on my aircraft carrier/Chevy truck. I have a 12v outlet at the tailgate end of the bed, so this works out well.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/20/2002 11:49:47 PM   
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Is the Triton a "smart" charger like the Shulze Chameleon chargers? e.g. does it dynamically adjust input current automatically? I'm debating whether to get the Triton or a Shulze 6-330.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 12:48:04 AM   
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Yes, it is.


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 5:46:59 AM   
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I need help with a Triton related project. I am planning to build a power supply from a PC power supply to use with the Triton in the shop. The article I’m going by is from the May 2002 issue of QST Magazine. The article calls out components that I am unable to find. Please help me find a source for these guys.

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20 Watt, 3-Ohm resistor. (Metal cased with mounting tabs)
1.5 inch diameter ferrite FT140-43 toroid core

In the photo, the author says he's using 2 10-ohm resistors in parallel. This is used to put a load on the 5v side to engage the regulator.

Please help me locate these items.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 7:02:05 AM   
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In anticipation of using this new charger - I have a Genuine WalMart lawn tractor battery ready to go -
I keep this thing on low trickle - so I can use it on the flight line (it has a nice plastic carry handle) or use it in the shop.
It cost me 16 bucks - on speshul .
(that's what they call it at Wal Mart--)

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 10:12:26 AM   
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I Just got my triton tonight. I didn't realize my lack of knowledge about batteries. I have been using a accu cycle plus for a year or so......just push a button and walk away. This new charger is going to take some getting used to .

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 10:14:20 AM   
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We are working on that. I am hoping we can learn together and share the knoledge. I I am also going to build a power supply to use the Triton in the shop as well as at the field. I'll gladly share that information as well.


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 12:08:32 PM   
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Scorch,

Here's a start for your power supply:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/tm.asp?m=188188+power+supply

Just did a search here on RCU for "computer power supply". Appears to be a "Been there, done that" for many folks.

Robb

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/21/2002 7:02:59 PM   
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Thanks, that gave me some of the information I needed. Now I need a source for a 1.5 inch diameter ferrite FT140-43 torite core. And I need a 20 watt 3 ohm resistor, metal cased with mounting tabs.

If you can point me to a source for these parts, I'd be really grateful.


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