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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/22/2002 8:48:56 PM   
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Yes, it will charge up to 4 Li-Poly/ Li-Ion cells in series.

See specs at

http://www.electrifly.com/accys/gpmm3150.html

Instruction manual available at

http://www.electrifly.com/manuals/gpmm3150-manual.pdf

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/22/2002 10:56:08 PM   
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Question for the lucky owners:

Do you need to jump the diode before you can charge the Futaba transmitter using this charger?


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/22/2002 11:41:23 PM   
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The Trinity will charge with a diode in the circuit, but you cannot cycle the pack without a) bypassing the diode or 2) removing the pack and connecting directly to it.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/23/2002 1:13:17 AM   
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According to the FAQ at Futaba's website, the 9C can be discharged through the charge circuit.

http://www.futabarc.com/faq/faq-9c-q597.html

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/23/2002 4:31:39 AM   
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Yes, my understanding a unique change to the 9C...nice touch to keep people from jumpering the diodes.

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Please help! - 11/24/2002 10:37:35 PM   
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Can someone please help us novices here with battery specs?

It would be really nice if someone put all the specs. in one place, clear and concise for us battery/charging novices.

I'm looking for charge & discharge rates for fast charging and slow charging NiCd & NiMh battery packs. I just bought the Triton charger and really need some help. I'm sure others do as well. Would one of you battery geniuses please help us out?

Many thanks!
Jeff

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/24/2002 10:45:28 PM   
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Ni-Cd should be charged no faster than 4C - some will not take that much. Ni-MH no higher than 2C (although some charge faster than that). Unless you are really in a hurry you will get longer life out of the packs by charging at lower rates. Slow charge rate for both Ni-Cd and Ni-MH is as close as you can get to C/10. Discharge rates (to check to see if they make factory spec. capacity is C/5.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/24/2002 11:47:58 PM   
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Red , is there any issue using a peak detect charger at C/10 rates? I usually charge my 1650 NiMh packs at 200 or 300 ma


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/25/2002 12:04:57 AM   
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Not that I have encountered using SuperNova, Robbe Infinity 2, SuperTurbo or Alpha 4. Looking at Trinity now.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/25/2002 12:28:34 AM   
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Hi redscho,
Thanks for the info! What about the very first charge on a NiMh pack? 50ma?

Jeff

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/25/2002 12:29:55 AM   
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C/10 is recommended or as close as you can get to it.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/26/2002 3:09:44 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scorch
1.5 inch diameter ferrite FT140-43 toroid core

Please help me locate these items.
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This toroid is used for extra measure. You can purchase one from [URL=http://www.amidon-inductive.com/associates_prod_toroidal.htm]Amidon Associates[/URL] . The "140" is the outer diameter of the toroid, which is a requirement base on your wire size and the number of turns needed. And the "43" is the mix of the powdered iron core, which correlates to the the frequency cutoff of the core itself. Basically it is a low pass filter. I am not sure what the frequency range of the 43 is off hand. If you have access to an ARRL Handbook, the appendix has the broad frequency ranges for each color of core. Keep your eyes peeled at the next hamfest that you attend a Yellow or Red core. The core added in the QST article is to attenuate the high frequency radiated emissions from the switching power supply so they don't end up as "birdies" in the ham radio. For the charger application, it probably isn't necessary, but I am not advocating unintentional radiators either. In this case you aren't worried about "birdies" in your battery charger. In the professional design world, we would worry about the emission levels affecting the receiver and affecting the battery charger micro controller. I hope this is enough info.


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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/26/2002 8:48:00 AM   
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Huh???


[QUOTE]Originally posted by szastoupil



This toroid is used for extra measure. You can purchase one from [URL=http://www.amidon-inductive.com/associates_prod_toroidal.htm]Amidon Associates[/URL] . The "140" is the outer diameter of the toroid, which is a requirement base on your wire size and the number of turns needed. And the "43" is the mix of the powdered iron core, which correlates to the the frequency cutoff of the core itself. Basically it is a low pass filter. I am not sure what the frequency range of the 43 is off hand. If you have access to an ARRL Handbook, the appendix has the broad frequency ranges for each color of core. Keep your eyes peeled at the next hamfest that you attend a Yellow or Red core. The core added in the QST article is to attenuate the high frequency radiated emissions from the switching power supply so they don't end up as "birdies" in the ham radio. For the charger application, it probably isn't necessary, but I am not advocating unintentional radiators either. In this case you aren't worried about "birdies" in your battery charger. In the professional design world, we would worry about the emission levels affecting the receiver and affecting the battery charger micro controller. I hope this is enough info.


Scott
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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/26/2002 8:50:53 AM   
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Sorry, too technical for me.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/26/2002 7:12:47 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chris Massa
Sorry, too technical for me.

Chris
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That post was in regards to Scorch's difficulty to locate the FT140-43 toroid part to modify a computer power supply to use with the charger. The toroid is a powered iron doughnut about 1.4" round that is wrapped with the +12V wire. This is used to get rid of the radio noise/interference that is emitted from the power supply. You can see a similar application by looking at some computer monitor cords that have a little cylinder shape built into the cord. This is basically the same thing to help filter out the "radio garbage". Thats all. I hope that sheds a little light.

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Great Planes new DC charger/cycler - 11/26/2002 7:37:29 PM   
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Great, Thanks.

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