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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 3:14:07 PM   
Steve



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I can't wait to get the engine. I put a deposit down on one and will have it mid December. From the other posts on Taurus, this seems to be an excellent engine. Thanks for the info on the reciever batteries. I have used just one in the past, but was thinking of redundancy. I don't want a bad switch to cause another devistating loss. The switches are by biggest concern, so I'll use two. I am hooked on the 6v reciever batteries for these digital servos. Makes a big differance in performance "IMO". I think Lithium Ion's would be the best, but I cant get set up with them at the moment due to added costs. I've been eyeballing Fromecos for about a year now.

You have a happy turky day too. I'm going to "Stuff", "Roll to Couch", and FOOTBALL!!

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 3:26:33 PM   
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I was just wondering are you going to put a servo for choke on throttle?
And do you really need it?

Did you hear anything about midwest extra 300XS?? Which one is better, CA or Midwest?

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 4:29:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have used a Sulivan Golden Rod with a knob screwed in to the end and poked out the side of the fuse for the choke before and it works very well. I will just hang a piece of wire off the choke horn on this one and run it out the bottom. Thats easy and effective. I do use the choke every time I start a gas engine. Choke on, full throtle, flip until it pops, choke off, low throtle, flip and they start right away .

The Midwest kit is a heavier plane than the CA. The CA is designed for 3D as well as pattern flying. Just depends on the flying you want to do. You can lighten up the Midwest kit, but you have to elarge the controle surfaces if you want extreem 3D. I personally think the CA is a more capable plane for 3D and IMAC. It ranks with Carden and Aero Works in my book.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 4:38:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Futaba 9202's on ailerons and elevators, big digital on rudder. Single 1400mh NIMH on receiver and 1200 on ignition. Doesn't need much more as I don't fly it more then 6 flights a day.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 4:53:27 PM   
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What HD switch are you using?

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 5:00:43 PM   
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I have the Fromeco Li-ion setup on my 31%. Love it. They have a package with a 4800 for the rx and a 2400 for the ignition along w/ 2 regulators for like $160. I would not worry about running dual rx batteries on this size plane. Just make sure to use a good switch. The JR heavy duty charge switch is probably considered the standard for relaibility. I think most battery problems can be caught if people would check their batteries before every flight. I caught a bad cell in a pack (ni-cad) a while ago just prior to my 2nd flight of the day. Since then I check every flight - it's worth the 10 seconds.
PS- your 27% is looking great!

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/24/2005 5:54:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Futaba micro switch on ignition and MPI or futaba heavy duty on Receiver (can't remember). Heck I used micro on all my installs up until this one without problem...I changed just due to the Digital rudder servo, otherwise I would have stuck with the Micro Switch on the receiver also.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/25/2005 3:13:33 PM   
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That is the setup I was looking at a while back. I would need the charger and 8 ball also. Have you had any Li-ion's go bad yet? I know a couple of people that have had some Li-poly's go bad.

Scott,
I've had two crashes due to standard switch failures. I now normally use the JR HD or the Hitec HD switch. I like the JR because it comes with a charge jack, though its some times hard to find a place for it.

Haven't done anything on the plane the last few days, but I'll get back on it this weekend.

Steve

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/25/2005 6:59:10 PM   
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30 yrs and counting without a switch failure of any type. (wood quick) And when I say 30yrs I mean heavy flying with only one radio failure to boot.. Still have some futabas from the 80's that I could use.

I think (not saying you) but alot is placed on radios when in fact something else happened. If a plane crashes all stuff such as batteries and switches go to the trash (doesn't happen much) recievers and servos get checked thoroghly in multiple airplanes prior to going into a good model.

But anyhow nothing hurts with going heavy duty especially with a switch (minor).

Have fun with it they fly great.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/25/2005 11:58:35 PM   
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I have not been using the li-ions for more than 1/2 a season, and have not had any issues yet. I know that the Li-ion and li-poly batts do not like to be cycled deeply. It seems like the guys who get the best life from a battery do not let them get too far down before charging them again. They also don't like a lot of heat. Also, both the 4800 rx pack and the 2400 ign pack would be plenty for your plane. The "easier" you are on the batts the longer they will last. Even if you pull 5amps from the rx battery (unlikely), thats barely 1C and no problem for the battery. I use the Fromeco charger too and it works fine, but I would like a little more info as to how much went in the battery during the charge. The nice thing is youcan charge the rx and ign li-ions at the same time.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/26/2005 3:55:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yea, I still have questions about Li-ion's before I can justify the extra cash to get setup on the new battery tech. I have a charge and cycle station for Nicads I've built up over the years and have a lot invested in that and it keeps my batteries fresh and good for many many years.

I worked on the plane last night and I'll post some more photos soon. It always takes me a while to get the wings and stab set.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/27/2005 2:34:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		After I set the stab at 0 incendence with the fuse, I glued the ply wing rib to the wing and installed the anti-rotation dowls. I drill the rear one first, when the wing is at 0 incendence. Once its set I drill the front dowl. Once the wings are set, I glued the stab in and also glued the fin on. Now that I was able to set the rudder in place, I finished cutting the elevators to clear the rudder controle horn. I also final sanded the tapers for the desired throw. Then I capped the foam end on the elevators.

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RE: Nother 27% CA 300L Build - 11/27/2005 3:03:04 AM   
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