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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 4:43:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nose heavy airplanes have really bad elevator response. I had a friend with an OS 32 on a Sig Wonder and it was dull until he got the CG back where it should be. Then it was wild.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 12:39:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		well the Shrike is DONE!!!! finito. as soon as i get pics ill post them.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 1:00:32 PM   
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Nose heavy airplanes have really bad elevator response.

And it's even worse if they're also heavy as a brick.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 3:36:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		WHATS THE STANDARD WEIGH FOR A SIZE 10 SHRIKE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 3:44:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure if there is a "standard". The final weight would depend on the engine, radio equipment, balance lead, and construction techniques. Early in the thread I suggested that people "weigh in". I remember seeing a few people post wieghts. Mine weighs 2 pounds 4 ounces without fuel. I've seen a couple posts from RC-FIEND saying his was 2 pounds 12 ounces, but that was before he switched from the .15 to the .28 and added a couple C cell batteries as ballast.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 3:58:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		OH OK SO MINE SHOULD BE LIGHTER SINCE IM GOING ELECTRICAL HUH! ALSO THE REAR WHINGS DOES IT MAKE A BIG DIFFRENCE IF THEY ARE 15 DEGREES OR STRAIGHT? ANYONE HAS PUT LANDING GEARS ON A SIZE 10? PICS PICS PICS also wheres the center of gravity on the size 10 Shrike

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 4:20:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before I covered mine I pinned the fins straight and at an angle. Looks much better angled. Several people have added landing gear. I've yet to read positive comments about including gear from any of them. They've pretty much concluded that the plane flies better without gear. Will yours be lighter? I guess it depends on how heavy your battery pack is. It should be nice to not have to deal with adjusting the engine or cleaning the slime, but I think I would miss the sound of the engine unwinding at the bottom of those dives. Mine actually stays very clean, the pipe directs all the exhaust away from the plane.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 4:43:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		i know about the sound however a couple of the guys here @ the club i belong to www.rcrams.com they have the size 10 Shrikes and with the brushless motor makes a nice winding soung too im hopping to get mine mastered by this summer. im still kind of new at this.....

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 4:52:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe we should have a Carolinas Shrike fly-in. A couple guys in my club are thinking of building them after seeing mine fly. I think one of the speed demons is a bit jealous since it appears my Shrike is faster than his Patriot. We've yet to have them both at the field on the same day, so it's just perception right now. It could be that the Shrike just seems faster since it's smaller.

Since you're new to this, choose a larger diameter, but smaller pitch prop. It'll give you more thrust and less speed. As you get comfortable, you can reduce the diameter and increase the pitch to make it faster.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 6:26:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey piper you are only 79 miles from me check out the website i posted earlier there are some of the planes as well as pics of the airfield we have 70+ acers of open land that we own a nice landing strip and of course a clean port-a-patty.... get your guys together ill let you know when the next Fly-in is going to be we have everything from gigant scale to electrical to heilos and all and this invite is to everyone also we are haveing a BIG swapmeet next month in NC ill let you know when it is.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 7:18:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: piper_chuck

Before I covered mine I pinned the fins straight and at an angle. Looks much better angled. Several people have added landing gear. I've yet to read positive comments about including gear from any of them. They've pretty much concluded that the plane flies better without gear. Will yours be lighter? I guess it depends on how heavy your battery pack is. It should be nice to not have to deal with adjusting the engine or cleaning the slime, but I think I would miss the sound of the engine unwinding at the bottom of those dives. Mine actually stays very clean, the pipe directs all the exhaust away from the plane.


Chuck,
The first Shrike that I built I modified it for landing gear. I wouldn't recommend it. I had a 9x5 prop on an OS 20 and I had almost no clearance between the prop and the ground when I landed. I had a prop strike on almost every landing. Also the weight of the landing gear really made the plane sluggish. On my second Shrike I left the landing gear off and I think that it flew much better without them.

Ken

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 7:46:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info Ken. I'm pretty sure yours was one of the experiences I was citing. It's actually a pity the Shrike doesn't adapt better to landing gear, I think it would make it even more fun. I happen to have a set of .20 size retracts and I keep thinking that putting them in the Shrike could be interesting, but there's no way around the negative effect of the extra weight.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 7:51:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		WHAT DO YOU GUYS USE AS FAR AS EXTRA CUSHION FOR THE LANDING BELLY SINCE NO LANDING GEAR IS BEING USED.

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RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1 - 12/28/2005 8:10:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used the plastic strip that came with it. However, that peeled off in flight. After this I just put on another strip of sticky foam and then covered it with some clear packing tape. I fly off grass, and it's holding up quite well.

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