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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/19/2005 8:04:16 PM   
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Status: online 		just placed a good size order thru offshore electronics.. I like these guys and their shipping is quick... they are in boston and I live in jersey... Only problem is they only stock the common parts.... Still waiting on the hexes so I can order the wheels and tires...

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/19/2005 8:18:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great! That is good news because they have about the cheapest prices on CEN stuff. Unfortunately, I just ordered about $300 worth of stuff and had to go to 3 vendors to get it plus 2 Ebay orders. I am sure I would have saved a bit by using Ehobbies. Thanks for the info, I will check their site.

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 2:36:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please remember the extra stress the maxx size wheels and tires will have on the stock CVD's.
I would hate to see you put all of that money into something and not be aware of the possible problems.


Dr Honda, you might want to include some form of disclaimer about the potential problems of using these on a stock FF.



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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 3:29:24 AM   
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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 3:41:22 AM   
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The good thing about the new tires and wheels, if I don't like them on my MT2 I can stick them on my Savage. It's a win win situation. Actually, most of the parts I bought were not for this mod. I finally decided to upgrade to the aluminum break seat, plug and disk on both the MT2 and ATX, a aluminum steering link for the ATX, 2 new sets of 2.2" tires and wheels for the ATX (still looking for that perfect combo for it), new failsafe and new tires for my new Romulin rims

The sad thing is, I have much more on my wish list

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 3:49:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well i just broke a drive using wide offset wheels

If only i can get hold of a lathe i could make some new ones from a higher grade steel only the end part tho (part the wheel is on) becuase its a simple part to make.

I actualy noticed my RC10GT Mip CVD's are a close fit to the cens! and them things are solid!

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:09:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Before I did my buggy shaft swap I looked at the RC10 shafts but I felt they were to expensive to experiment with so I didn't try them. Another possibility is the Electric Stampede shiny cvd's but again they are kind of expensive to experiment with and both of them will still require adapters for Maxx size wheels. When you start getting into the after market chrome shafts for other trucks the cost for my swap or Poor Judgements swap isn't that much more. Both of these swaps are proven but if there are other alternatives myself and others definitley would like to know.
The other possible cvd mod that should work is the Duratrax swap that Cenracer1 mentioned if I had known about that swap I might have seriously considered it but it will still leave the problem of the weak diff cups.
I believe these are the parts Cenracer1 was mentioning,
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCTT0&P=7

I am just thinking aloud here, combined with these parts and some creative Dremeling (similar to Poor Judgements mod) it might be possible to eliminate the diff cups
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBCK3&P=0
But you will need to use T-Maxx knuckles and pillow balls or the Duratrax Thunder Quake knuckles and pillow balls.

Poor Judgement, I know that you warned them I just felt the need to re-state it especially when there was talk of spending a considerable amount of money buying parts.



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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:21:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whats wrong with the stock diff cups?, after they are modded they are as strong as anything, I have broken many a dog bone/cvd but the (modded) diff cups are still going strong with only a bit of wear now.
So if theres something that can get rid of the stock dog bones/cvd but keep the diff cup, I will be happy with that.

BTW Dr H, hopefully I will have something for you soon....

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:31:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		In saying that IF CEN WOULD JUST MAKE THE PARTS OUT OF A DECENT GRADE STEEL IN THE FIRST PLACE WE WOULDNT BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I have never broken a diff cup either but there are allot of posts about broken diff cups. I know the biggest problem with the diff cups is the size, they really limit the ability to use larger diameter cvd's which is the major reason I went with the buggy diff cups. On the second link that I posted, the ends of those cvd's will not fit in a FF diff cup and most of the possible options won't fit either.

As far as CEN using different grade steel to start with is correct on some parts but as far as the cvd's and dog bones are concerned I believe it is the diameter at the diff cup that is the problem.

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:40:59 AM   
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Personally I have never broken a diff cup either


Are you talking modded or un-modded?

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 6:45:52 AM   
rolland


 

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Status: offline 		I modded my diff cups before I even ran the truck. The diff cups that I was using are the original cups that came with my truck.



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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 12:00:49 PM   
poor judgement



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Status: offline 		some low profile tyres should help the shaft situation tho - ive got some komodo whatsernames, them low profile jobbies, on the way. i will post picks to compare to my brick pins when the komodos arrive (from US).

i managed half a tank (warm up) with the tmaxx brick pins before i broke a cen shaft - it was the outer part of the cvd too. that was the point where i gave up on cen shafts tbh. i was running the os18 at the time btw, and it was a small low speed cartwheel that broke it iirc, while running on grippy grass.

could just be my driving and throttle control, or the 18, or a combination of everything of course... i really hope it works out, but i would most definately recommend low profile, light weight tyres to help as much as poss with these stock shafts.

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RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda? - 11/20/2005 12:50:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow!! I don’t check this thread for a day… and it doubles in size.

Yes… I think a warning will be in order for this part. But I’m still going to produce it because it should fit a few of the Traxxas trucks as a replacement for the plastic drive hex.

Just as an FYI… I got the end mills I needed, and some aluminum stock… so I should have a prototype done in a day or two. I would do it today… but Sunday is my RC day. (I’m sure you guys understand) I just got a new FireHammer… So, I have to give it a good workout. And I made a new set of mixing arms for a Shogun heli to help with it’s 3D abilities. (Dolphin, Zoom, or Zap 400 for the guys over the pond) So I have to give that a few flights today. The mixing arms will also be a potential new product.

Oh… and after we get this part done… we may have to look at whatever the problem is with the drive axles. (dog bones, CVD’s or whatever it’s using)

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