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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 7/27/2006 3:01:52 AM   
patternflyer1



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Status: offline 		Glad you like it. Your numbers will come down more after you get your throttle curve set right. That will slow your uplines down and create less draw on the batteries. I bet you'll be down to 3000mah in no time.

Good luck!!!!
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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 7/27/2006 3:37:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Steve,

Glad you got her up in the air okay. You'll tame the motor in time, just takes a little getting used to having all that low end power. I would recommend experimenting with a few different props once you get everything settled and comfortable. I have 'detuned' essentially my set up with a smaller prop, a 20x13 and have liked the results. Will try something with a little lower pitch in a couple weeks to experiment with downlines as well.

Too bad you can't make it out here in ten days for the Gardnerville, NV contest. We'll, Dad and I, have two planes with 5320s and my Genesis with the 5330 available for demo flights... Well Dad's Focus is off limits I am told, but the Eclipse with the 5320 and my Genesis will be flying Wed-Friday if anybody is interested. Will be a barnburner of a contest, with lots o' prizes!

How does it feel to be AXI-fied Steve? lol

Tom M.

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 7/27/2006 3:51:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Feels great will try a few different things tomorrow, have the AXI 5320 and Jeti 90 controller in cart with you just haven't pulled the handle to order.
Steve Maxwell

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 7/27/2006 7:57:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somethings I didn't post yesterday was temps, motor windings was at a high of 107 ( no spinner so can check easy) batteries at high of 125 in center and most places 110-115, controller at 99, could get the pack temps down with a little more directing of air just to batteries like Dave Lockhart has done from the Nat's, my packs are stacked on top of eachother with just velcroed together so no real spacing.

GO AWAY RAIN I WANT TO FLY

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/1/2006 3:26:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok finally got my radio 9C configured to my liking with the AXI/F3A, set high throttle end point at 0% and the low end at 140% Expo -35%, some things that this has done limited my full throttle amps to 76 and a softer feel all though the throttle, If I had a different radio where I could set many points for throttle, I think it would even be better feel.
Now for the kicker that most I put back in my packs today was 3255 and the least was 3125, the flight consisted of a taxi out, fly the p-07 all legal take off and landings and taxi back to center position, winds today was 12-15 mph, flight times 8 minutes or under, outside temp 94, motor temp 117, battery temp highest 134, ducting more like Dave Lockharts would bring down more.
Now I can get really flying and get the right feel for this motor as it was very appearant to most this past weekend at the East Lake Michigan contest, that I didn't have a good feel for the throttle. way to fast many times, I had to keep backing off the trottle to get back to where I neeeded to be, all this with a 22 X 12 APC E prop.
I would like to add that I'm not sponsored nor would I ever take one, and (not getting to anyone and not hammering anyone) the reason is simple, sponsored pilot all say there products are best, the problem I have with that is how in the world could say that without testing the said product, other than having your sponsors getting on your butt for even trying something else, if you don't think is a really great system, buy one and try it, I wish I had this info last year before I went the other way. I understand sponsors and glad some get the perks of sponsorship, but it does limit your right to make choices.
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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/1/2006 3:50:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glad the motor is working out for you Steve. I flew my Focus with a 9C and never really got the throttle tuned to my liking, ended up with a expo curve that wasn't quite right, but I flew around it until it's demise.

I think each airplane/pilot is going to have a different prop that they like with this motor... but I found that when I experimented with props, and went down in size i ended up using less battery in the flight. I'm now using a 20x13, and plan to try a few others shortly.

But... having said that, if you like how it flys now, who cares? Fly it that way...

Tom M.

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/1/2006 4:11:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 21X14 but don't the need the speed and I plan on getting more props when I get the 5320/28.
Thanks Tom for the great service you have provided in getting this info out.
Steve Maxwell

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/2/2006 4:12:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok today the temps was way up there 94 winds 12-15, tried some different throttle setups, kinda liked the logrythmic but it has a very hard start and I think I end up using more MAH, and at that the highest MAH put back today was 3125, out of 8 flights the lower was with my setup as of yesterday 2755 put back, all normal flights. I started last year when I would only fly one flight and land just like at contest, to get in the habit, if I want to trim or practice a certain manuever I do that and set timer, which I keep on all the time, flying every 20-25 minutes with 2 chargers and 2 sets of batteries of course charging time is down because of less MAH used.
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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/2/2006 5:15:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Steve,

You are really cranking up the flying! I never tried the logarythmic curve, what did you mean that it was hard to start? Low power initially?

Tom

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/2/2006 5:25:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well if you give it a little throttle it starts faster than with linear, I'll play with it more but think Jason Shulman uses the logirythmic.
By the way Tom you interested in sponsoring a 58 year old that likes to fly the P pattern but has no desire to fly the F pattern other than playing with elements of that pattern.
I'm getting better all the time but time isn't on my side can only imagine if my uncle and father would have helped when my uncle had RC when I was 14, way to expensive for my father to spend money on.
Steve Maxwell

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/2/2006 2:48:29 PM   
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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/2/2006 2:55:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Too early in the morning and not enough coffee. I'm at my father's house for the contest this weekend and using his computer. Didn't pay attention as to who was logged in, hence the above post.

Well Steve, I would love to be able to sponsor a 58 year old FAI pilot... but first I need to figure out how to pay for this 33 year old's RC habit... I tell ya, it's getting increasingly difficult to find two nickels let alone rub them together... this contest is likely to be the end of me... But if everybody has a good time, that's all that matters right? lol

Tom M.

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/3/2006 1:20:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yesterday we had winds of 15-20 MPH and 95 degrees from my back changed back to linear throttle with -35% expo battery usage was up from the other day highest was 3405, least was 3125, needed extra speed to help with maintain heading which I'm very poor at, so I continually drift out and flying bigger space. All in all still well below what I was using with the Hacker.

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RE: AXI 5330/F3A Flight Report - 8/3/2006 2:15:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I prop down to a 21x13 in the wind Steve. Same as the Hacker folk do. It seems to penetrate better.
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