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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/4/2006 3:35:08 AM   
ferrariboy150


 

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Status: offline 		Is it because one motor spins faster than another? Mine is good for like 10 seconds and then starts to go as if I was putting in right rudder. The chopper is so cool though, and fun. In the near future, I hope to try the stairs. I only have one more spare lower blade though.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/4/2006 4:26:06 AM   
GTX SlotCar



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ORIGINAL: ferrariboy150

Is it because one motor spins faster than another? Mine is good for like 10 seconds and then starts to go as if I was putting in right rudder. The chopper is so cool though, and fun. In the near future, I hope to try the stairs. I only have one more spare lower blade though.

Stairs are very tricky because of the uneven nature of the rotor wash bouncing off them, and because they'll also create wind in front or back of you (depending which way you're going) as well as at least one wall to the side.

Yes, one motor starts spinning faster than the other as they handle the heat differently, or one is messed up and creates more heat. Also, the 4in1 gets hot on some Lamas and then doesn't perform as well.
These are cheap motors, so their tolerances aren't very close. Because of slopping timing, they'll perform differently running frontward or reversed - depending on how far advanced or retarded the timing is on the motor. You might get better performance out of them if you run them backwards. Un-solder the wires, swap the motors front to back, and re-solder the wires. Now they'll be spinning the opposite of what they were. If they don't run better that way, switch everything back. Sometimes just replacing the slow motor with a new one will help.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/5/2006 4:33:20 PM   
ferrariboy150


 

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Status: offline 		OK. I just made a video on a digital camera. The quality is very good. It's not choppy at all. The video is just like 2 minutes of fun. My brother is flying. Lama 2 fun

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/6/2006 6:23:52 AM   
flying-llama


 

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ORIGINAL: ferrariboy150
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Anyways, about the It is good to know what can possibly go wrong with my lama, and how do i fix it comment. I agree about that but whenever somthing goes wrong, I have to read all 20 of these pages to find the info. (it's usually there tough) So I was thinking I might make a thread just fot lama 2 problems, and repairs. We all could pitch somthing in and have it done in a week.


Sorry for the late reply. Work has been keeping me busy.
Making a thread just for lama 2 problems will help with new posts,
but there will still be two possible complications:

1. We will still need to look at the 20 pages of posts on this thread for older material.

2. For either thread, we will need to search using this web-site's search mechanism, which I find
slow to use as I go from one potential search result to another.

To help with (2), I saved out each of the print version (no pictures, saves space) of each of the 20 pages of this thread as a web page file.
I then merged all the web page files together (using Unix's "cat" ) into one huge web page.
Now I can load that one huge web page into a web browser, and when I want to do a search, I can use the browser's "find", which will quickly let me go from one search result to the next.
...


I have now added that huge web page file as an attachment to that message (post 495 in this thread).

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/6/2006 8:45:43 AM   
jez33


 

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Status: offline 		hi all..
ive just recieved my esky lama and am very impressed with it.
as others have said the tail does need constant ajustment. i find tho if the trim adjustments get to bad then i simply land and turn my transmitter off for a second or so and then turn it back on (i dont toutch the heli ) this resets the tail again..
i have a hirobo and walkera no 5 ver 2 lama and think the esky flys as stable as the hirobo (though the rudder isnt as nice ) and flys much better then the walkera.. these are a dodle to fly nose in while in my bedroom

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/6/2006 5:55:28 PM   
Jeddy


 

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Status: offline 		Has anyone tried programming the Lama into another tx? I've heard you just use 4 channels like it is a simple plane - motor, rudder, elevator, aileron, but which channel on the rx does what?
thanks,
Jeddy

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/6/2006 7:30:34 PM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/7/2006 11:00:27 AM   
Jeddy


 

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Status: offline 		OK, well I had a play last eve trying to get it working on another tx, however with very curious results. I connected the supplied walkera tx up to a rx with 4 servos attached, but coulnd't work it out - although 1 and 2 do seem to be aileron and elevator, but there was so much movement it was difficult to see what was what. I wonder if this cheap tx explains some of the lack of control and undesired movement? I guess more likely the walkera tx does some mixing which I'm not replicating.

If anyone can advise how to setup the model on another tx I'd be grateful.

Other than that, I guess the next question is whether anyone is using NiMh or NiCds in their tx and how well they work?

Thanks,
Jeddy

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/7/2006 4:22:06 PM   
GTX SlotCar



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Status: offline 		If you go back one page, there's some info that you might find helpful.
What do you mean by the "supplied" walkera Tx? The Lama 2 is Esky. Some Walkera electronics only work with other Walkera stuff.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/7/2006 5:19:21 PM   
Jeddy


 

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Status: offline 		hi Gary, thanks for your reply. Are you refering to your post 494 about +ve / ve shift? I did have a read thro all 21 pages of this thread over the past few days, but dont recall seeing anything to help with this issue (there's a lot of it tho, maybe I was half dozing at the end).
The tx I got with my Lama says Walkera on it, as does the rx inside the Lama, Walkera RX404.
The Walkera tx seems to partially operate a hitec rx I have (which I also use my normal tx with, so I'm guessing these things are at least sending out common signals).
I think the info I need is what do define the various channels on my tx as for the rx404 and confirmation as to whether I'm defining it as a plane or a heli (if so, which type of heli rotor).
cheers.
Jeddy

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/7/2006 8:26:50 PM   
ferrariboy150


 

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Status: offline 		Are the motors in the Lama the same as the motors in the CX?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/7/2006 11:56:58 PM   
flying-llama


 

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ORIGINAL: Jeddy
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Other than that, I guess the next question is whether anyone is using NiMh or NiCds in their tx and how well they work?

Thanks,
Jeddy


The following seem to work for me: NiMh AA batteries (Duracell, 2000-2500mAh) gotten from my local Staples office supply store.
Because rechargable batteries have a lower voltage than non-rechargables, I only get 3 green lights on the transmitter for a short time,
but it has been staying at 2 green lights for awhile.

I saw similar experiences mentioned on pages 3 & 4 of the forum thread at:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f89d275ca13ddc6f01d99a30ce65930c&t=450512

One person mentioned having problems with their rechargable batteries, but when they measured the batteries individually, some turned out to be bad.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/8/2006 4:19:32 AM   
sxates


 

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From: Dallas/Garland, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Hey all,

Looking at getting a Lama 2 here pretty soon, have been doing a lot of reading trying to find the best deal for a beginner heli pilot, Lama seems like a good bet.

Wondering where the good places to buy it are? I'm in the US and would rather not have to order stuff from hong kong, as the shipping is outrageous, and if there was a problem I can imagine it would be difficult to return. Anybody know of some good deals out there?

Also, a friend of mine just bought a very similar looking 'copter from the LHS made by robotech I think--it looks almost identical to the Lama and Walkera 5, but was like $350! Anybody know what the difference is?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 3/8/2006 2:48:11 PM   
squadri1126