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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/10/2005 9:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was just reading a thead talking about the problems of a blade strike, and how it screwed up the whole heli, well, I was thinking, why don't you use some high tensile string (heh I have some stuff that goes in aircraft tires, that'll hold up a few pounds!) and secure the bottom set of blades to the shaft, then you'ld NEVER have a blade strike and it'd add some air restance (just a little) that would counter the flybar's effect, what do you think of that?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/10/2005 9:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		You mean like strut it with one end to the blade tip and one end to some kind of collar around the axle?
Id say that could work, sure would make tracking them easier. Try it and tell us what you think of it.

The only time I had a blade strike was when I had a rough landing though. Did any of you actually have one of those in mid flight?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/11/2005 2:41 AM   
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[Edit] It appears the order is in columns. Left 1st row, left 2nd row, left 3rd row. Then next column, etc.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/11/2005 11:33 AM   
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What did you do with the rotors and stuff? Stick on some carbon printed monocote? Looks utterly professional.

I was planning on doing the same to the tail except for aluminum I use a 5mm carbon tube. I have my doubts on the tail mount though. With the unfortunate event that it comes down tail first, it will crack off the screw holes due to the huge leverage, wich means getting a new chassis.

But I must say, the smaller canopy, thinner tail and carbon trimmings make it look worth 100 dollars more. Great job. Cant wait till my new parts get through the mail.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/11/2005 2:42 PM   
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...With the unfortunate event that it comes down tail first, it will crack off the screw holes due to the huge leverage....


You're right about that. It was a choice I made to go with the lighter bracket, and to keep busy so I wouldn't have to help with hanging Christmas decorations.
The recycled picture below shows the way I was going to mount it originally, putting screws through the frame. Stronger, but heavier.

My plan was to use a CF tail boom. The arrow was something my son found in our yard a couple years ago and he thought it was CF. When he brought it in from the garage and I saw it was aluminum, I almost stopped the project. Then I thought about it again, and aluminum on the Lama seemed pretty cool. I was going to take the graphics off the arrow, then decided I liked how it looks with them.
The assembly weighs about the same as the stock boom.

[edit] Oops, I almost forgot. I added some servo tape between the bracket and motor. I can pick the heli up and shake it a little by the tail boom. It's a little stronger than it looks.


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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/11/2005 10:49 PM   
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Great looking mods Gary.
Put a kit together and you could probably sell a bunch!

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/11/2005 11:43 PM   
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Here's a couple pics flying in my living room. The tricky part here is ..... I took the pictures while I was flying. Not great photography, but pretty good piloting.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 12:04 AM   
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Im still waiting on my new gears.. I wanna try this out myself darnit!

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 1:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I learned a trick. Get the thing to ballance on the ground effect about a foot off the ground and all trimmed out and you can put the Tx down and go take a piss and it'll still be hovering in the same place when you come back.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 1:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I highly doubt that. Just the mere draft that comes off of someone moving to go to the bathroom, makes it drift off. Even helicopters with heading hold on all channels drift off perfectly level.

Someone please make a video of it flying in a BIG space, like a gym hall or just plain outdoors. Waiting on being able to try that out myself is driving me nuts.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 3:57 AM   
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I highly doubt that.

You're right... I only had time to set the timer on my camera and fall asleep. I'm dreaming of a safe landing.

(It's about 4-6 inches off in this picture. Note the shadow of the LG.)

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 4:31 AM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 5:32 AM   
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Hey, what's a good replacement battery? I'd like to get a couple more. I ask the ebay guy and he said he could get them for me but he doesn't stock them so it'd be $18 shipping from China.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 11:16 AM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 12:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have been flying jets for the past 7 years and has forgotten about heli for awhile even though I was flying F3C and 3D back then. Lama 2 has revived my interest in electric heli and now I am enjoying this great invention in the comfort of my living room...highly recommended!!!!

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 2:47 PM   
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Need to take a class in Origami 101.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 3:07 PM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 3:21 PM   
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having rudder problems too. Which pot and which direction should I turn it? Thx all



I tried, i think it should be turn to between 9 to 10 o'clock, if the lama2 rotated anticlockwise,you should turn clockwise.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 5:26 PM   
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I don't have the heli yet so I can't try it but... anyways, the propellers on the right have the string attached, and the ones on the left don't. As you see the left ones would, by default, create more lift as it's not bent. This would save from ANY blade wacking as with them roped off, there's no possible way for it to bend, possibly down, but never up. The little thing in the bottom corner is what the blade would look like. As the string is flexible and in the middle this wouldn't effect the swash and blade movements any.

does that sound like a good idea? I'd hope so, plus it'd probably make a cool whistling sound (makes me want to attach two whistles to the tips of my 36 blades...)

GTX your heli keeps getting so much nicer than ours... when I get mine, WATCH OUT, heh it's not going to stay "stock" long, first goes the tail, then the canopy, then I add some stuff. but what ever it is it'll take the place of the hood and tail's weight. (i'd be cool if I could make a small tube that spouts a flammable gas, such as butane, to the tips of the top blades, which I ignite, then I'd have a sweet heli to fly at night, i'd probably only last a few seconds though... wait! I could fill those useless flybar weights with something like acetylene heh, that'd be pretty cool...)

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/12/2005 6:19 PM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/13/2005 6:58 AM   
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ok, here's what I'm talking about:...


You'd only need the string on the top rotor.
Here's what I think will happen. The heli will spin and start to wobble out of control to the point of going horizontal before crashing to the ground. If the rotor isn't free to move, very free, ALL stability will be lost. But hey, I could be wrong.


I can't fly my Lama, my #4 or my 36 (well never the 36, anyway) in my living room/dining room because of the Christmas tree, which is now partially decorated. Burned out light strings slowed yesterday's decorating progress for the rest of the family (I don't decorate the tree). Getting within 5 or 6 feet of it with the Lama or #4 will blow everything off it.
So....... I dug up my Winner and here I am buzzing the tree

[edit] Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Once again, I took the picture myself while flying.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/13/2005 11:26 AM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/13/2005 6:01 PM   
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/13/2005 7:07 PM   
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Hey, what's a good replacement battery? I'd like to get a couple more. I ask the ebay guy and he said he could get them for me but he doesn't stock them so it'd be $18 shipping from China.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/13/2005 7:15 PM   
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Mine cost 16 dollars each, and 2 dollars shipping.

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