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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/28/2007 6:28:05 AM   
vega2614


 

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Status: offline 		Has anyone ever tried using their Lama transmitter for another RC plane/chopper? I want to put in a 27mhz crystal from a plane of mine into the Lama transmitter and control it with that, but I wanted to make sure it was safe and would work. I'm assuming it depends on whether the Lama actually outputs (and at what gain) in the range of 27mhz if the crystal (bandpass filter) wasn't in place. Does anyone know? Thanks.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/28/2007 2:31:20 PM   
mayer4321


 

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Status: offline 		Vega, I don't know the answer to your question. I did not know you were on this forum, your youtube series has been an inspiration and was a huge factor in my decision to go with the lama 3. I was especially impressed when I saw you land on that air freshener. I know you have upgraded some parts to aluminum, do you have TBE? Even just a little? If so then do you just counter it in flight with tx inputs, if not and it's because you did and fixed it then will you share anything you did to resolve this problem. I am very happy with my lama 3 but this tbe is irritating, and they could have made the tail section tougher.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/29/2007 5:12:43 AM   
mayer4321


 

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Status: offline 		I just wanted to post some pics of my first "prototype" custom canopy and tail. This is my Lama 3, no alterations to the frame, this is totally reversible. The pics are not great, taken with a phone. I am VERY surprised by how well this thing flies like this.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/29/2007 10:16:12 PM   
kregan



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Status: offline 		Nice,

I got tired of the tail breaking so I made one from some
phenolic paper tube and an old tail section.



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ORIGINAL: mayer4321

I just wanted to post some pics of my first "prototype" custom canopy and tail. This is my Lama 3, no alterations to the frame, this is totally reversible. The pics are not great, taken with a phone. I am VERY surprised by how well this thing flies like this.



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< Message edited by kregan -- 4/29/2007 10:17:23 PM >

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/30/2007 2:29:54 AM   
mayer4321


 

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Status: offline 		That's cool, much cleaner than mine. I made mine out of foam board and covered it with masking tape, hehe. Turned out to be very heavy, it's so tail heavy that the heli responds 45* cc to any input on right stick. I'm going to try some kind of tubing. I have never heard of phenolic paper.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/30/2007 7:30:21 AM   
ccpmheli



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Status: offline 		Hello mayer4321, Meat tray styrofoam works pretty good. You could probably spend some time on a piece and make it look OK. Me, I took the quick easy way, so the looks are not great. I don't break as many blades with this tailboom. The material is light, so I made the TB a little longer than the stock TB to get CG. The material is fairly rigid, however, it needs the cross piece to give it rigidity, and the cross piece gives the 3rd dimension when looking up to or down on the heli(3D). Best part, it's free, or at least free with the purchase of meat.

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< Message edited by ccpmheli -- 4/30/2007 7:36:48 AM >

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/30/2007 1:55:16 PM   
vega2614


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the compliments Mayer. I occasionally check out the forums to see what others are up to.

I'm guessing when you say TBE, you're refering to the toilet bowl effect. Right now, it's pretty minimal because I recently adjusted the pots on the 4-in-1 (I didn't know they would have much of an effect on improving TBE, but they did somehow), but during most of the videos, I did have some significant TBE. It made landing on that air freshener particularly difficult because I had to counter with transmitter input. You also have to make sure there's no significant bends in the stabilizer bar, and that the blades are pretty symmetrical. I actually have my blades taped up a bit because they have cracked during impacts, but there's an equal amount of tape on each side so it's radially balanced. Finally, and what I find most important, is that you need to make sure the stabilizer bar is parallel to the top rotor. You can adjust the length of the connector between the bar and rotor by screwing in and out. It should come pretty good stock, but everytime I replaced the inner shaft (before the aluminum upgrade, which is highly recommended), I had to make sure they were parallel, otherwise I got major TBE.

As far as the tail section is concerned, I've broken it many times. I just use hot glue gun glue to put it back together, but you could also try 5-min epoxy (if you're more patient than me) and superglue (if you don't mind it breaking easily in later crashes). I like hot glue gun glue because it's a little elastic, meaning it can deform without breaking and then return to its original form, and it hardens in less than a minute.

Nice mod and keep on flying!

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/30/2007 11:13:30 PM   
AquaCop


 

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Status: offline 		Does anyone else have trouble with their Lama throwing the stabilizer weights? I have the solution. Mine has for the third time, and I’ve replaced my inner shaft with it’s second one. I also tried the aluminum inner shaft up-grade but it doesn’t fly as stable. So I tied something very radical. Since I own the Blade CX2, and I noticed that it has a far superior upper rotor head do to the small screw that holds the weights in place, I took some measurements with my digital calipers. Since the inner shafts length and diameter are the same, I bought a Blade CX2 inner shaft and installed it along with the CX2’s matching rotors blades and stabilizing weights and it flies very, very nicely even though the upper rotor blades are non-folding like the Lama’s lower blades. Now I’m considering changing the lower rotor head so that I can utilize the CX2’s lower rotor blades as well. It looks like it might be a little more involved because of the different swashplate. I feel that while the initial cost of changing the lama’s rotors over to the CX2’s rotor system might cost a little extra money, I’m getting a far superior design and I don’t have to spend $8.00 on shipping every time I need to order something for the Lama. My hobby stores carry everything I need for the Blade CX2. Since it’s the rotor blades that are the most venerable, I’ll save money in the long run. CX2’s blades are $4.00 a set down the street as appose to the Lama’s $8.90 a set plus the $8.00 for shipping. $16.90 for six blades is ridicules. Besides, I don’t like the way the Lama’s blades can swing back & forth like switch blades. It can happen in fight with an abrupt RPM change causing them to strike each other during a slightly hard landing, which has happened.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 4/30/2007 11:19:15 PM   
AquaCop


 

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< Message edited by AquaCop -- 4/30/2007 11:20:15 PM >

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 5/1/2007 3:37:38 AM   
kregan



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Status: offline 		It is a paper tube with some form of resin in
it to make it stiff. You may have seen them
in an airplane... the tub/sleeve that that is glued
in the fuselage that the wing tube slides into.

I needed it to be strong so the little guy could carry
the heli without it breaking the tail



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ORIGINAL: mayer4321

That's cool, much cleaner than mine. I made mine out of foam board and covered it with masking tape, hehe. Turned out to be very heavy, it's so tail heavy that the heli responds 45* cc to any input on right stick. I'm going to try some kind of tubing. I have never heard of phenolic paper.



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< Message edited by kregan -- 5/1/2007 3:47:22 AM >

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 5/1/2007 3:43:00 AM   
mayer4321


 

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Status: offline 		ccpmheli - That's cool, I like that tail section, thanks for the suggestion. I spent 40 min at walmart tonight browsing and thinking of what I might be able to use. That stuff is really light and being able to cut out pieces like that will allow for great creativity. I have noticed that with the stock tail back on my heli still responds a few degrees cc to inputs, I wonder if I can make a tail that is lighter than stock will that help? or can I weight the nose? I am totally new to helis, but I think I'm picking up on things pretty well, do those last two questions make sense or am I overlooking something that might be obvious to an experienced heli pilot?

Aqua - That's an interesting combo. My dad bought a blade cx2 and that upper hub was the first thing he broke, I hope you have better luck with it. I have had several blade strikes mid flight after an abrupt direction change at high speed (the powerhouse that the lama is, ha) and the uppers will just shear the bottoms in half. I wonder if the non pivoting blades would make a difference? I have gone through an embarrassing number of blades partly because I can get them too easily. My lama flew awful with the upper alum hub only, but when I put the rest of the alum on it balanced out pretty well.

Vega - Do you have any bigger helis? Is TBE unique to the two rotor design? I have not touched the gain pot yet, but I have adjusted the prop so that I need almost no rotational trim on a fresh batt, I never thought to note what effect it would have on tbe. Also I have adjusted the link to the stabilizer bar but only to bring blade tracking to even. I have realized that blade condition does have alot to do with tbe, I usually use a blade until I literally lose more than a dime size chunk out of it which around my house doesn't take long. Also I am so pleased with my Mega-Power 850Mah batteries I have to tell every Lama owner. I am getting 15-20min flights, honestly, and throttle is noticeably more responsive. Everyone should have three.

Anyone who reads this - How do people on this forum feel about people "plugging" their favorite hobby shop? I found a GREAT local retailer who is just getting into online retail. He is a very honest guy and a very reliable rc parts (particularly helis) dealer and I hope his internet store does well.

I'm gonna go ahead and drop the bomb, if this is poor etiquette then please someone tell me. If it is not then I hope every one checks out HobbyWorldUSA.us and finds a good deal on something or other.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 5/1/2007 3:51:06 AM   
mayer4321


 

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Status: offline 		Haha, that Lama looks HUGE in your boys hands. Does he fly it? My wife and I are expecting our first. I am really looking forward to sharing my hobbies with our kids.

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