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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/28/2005 3:37:18 AM   
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go to THIS POST and enlarge the image on the left, then right mouse click, copy and then paste it in Paint. You should be able to color it then.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/28/2005 4:00:05 AM   
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freakazoid

i got paint shop pro but i dont know how to use it - this is what i did.
i opened the template that i saved as an image from page 3 on this forum
i then made a new raster layer on which i used the paint brush and traced the template on to the new raster and i will now fill it in, int he colours i want ...

is this the way u would have done it???
if not how would u have done it ???

thx
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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/28/2005 4:04:34 AM   
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thanks gtx slotcar but it wont work coz there all different shades of green and blue and black u cant fill colour it all but thx for helpin...

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/30/2005 2:03:38 PM   
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freakazoid ?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/30/2005 3:24:06 PM   
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quote:

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thanks gtx slotcar but it wont work coz there all different shades of green and blue and black u cant fill colour it all but thx for helpin...

kp


It will work. You just have to pick a color and use the paint brush.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/30/2005 8:28:01 PM   
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what do you know, I got my esky in! the first thing I noticed was that miniscule amounts of weight can really affect the "stay still" factor, such as that little coil of wire which I normally would've ignored on my 36 made the thing drift right off! I couln't coil it anywhere as there's not much space for it, so, I just let the whole cord hang as I fly. let's see, I inverted the tail after some coustom drilling and cutting, which by the way, makes this thing look about 50 times better after the rear "prop" and two "stabilizers" are removed. This also prevents most, but the skid snapping drops, t boom strikes as the tail points down instead of up. I too have noticed that the thing spins even with full trim, I've thought of an idea to fix this, but, I need to know, how do you make a simple, decent mold for lead? you see, the "stabilizers" on the tail would make terrific paddles, I've looked at them and they are semetrical, but, are made of light plastic. to attach them to the flybar you would have to twist the metal rod in the plastic black control piece that attaches to the top of the helicopter. this makes those metal hooks that point up and down inside those rubber things point to the left and right in which you could hook the front of the lead pieces in causing you to not have to adjust them (as them rotating would make them level out)

any ways, so far this helicopter is great, that white plastic is really annoying though, it won't accept superglue I've already broken the front two skids, so, this poses a real problem, fortunatly, rubber cement seems the best choice for temerary fixes, or maybe hot glue, I'm using the cement at the moment. So, GTX, since you seem to be able to make skids already, I think a good next project would be black plastic esky super skids, just a suggestion though

overall, the thing is really well built and flies great, it's really easy to fly, so I'd would NOT suggest it as a begginer helicopter, unless you want a simulator, or just out for kicks and not wanting to go into an outdoor helicopter, this is NOT the best first helicopter, why? well, if someone who's never flown before can hold this thing in a 6x6x6 ft area pretty easily, then it's really good, personally I can keep it in a cube three inches larger than the helicopter, but only because I have flown other harder helicopters, this thing just doesn't teach the reflexes that a larger one does. now if you want to fly in your office or in your living room/ want a GOOD simulator after you get your first helicopter and can hold it in a decent tail in hover, then go ahead, this is for you. I'm learning head in with this helicopter, and it's invaluable compared to a computer sim. BUT in all respect, having something so tame and quiet makes me almost afraid to fly my 36! I've already gotten over an hour of flight logged on it and I've only had it for two days! Oh, and one thing, I HAVEN'T noticed the motors getting hot even after a full pack of 5 ft hovering (it's so fun to just bring it 5 inches from your nose!) it's warm, but I can hold my finger on it with no trouble. Hmm I should probably get some spare motors, and blades, I'm going to burn them up in a week at the pace I'm logging hours on it!


PS: why didn't they make the flybar holder METAL, I broke it already when I hit it into the gas cans I was doing circuts around in my garage (those green isreali ones) and I must say, I'm getting pretty good at the trasition into head in from tail in during forward flight, it does like to wander when you get it going fast though... Also, I bought from "autoscafe.com" and when you choose exprss shipping it arives in 2-5 days at my home in georgia (probably faster in the east coast) even though it comes from hong kong, the total price (s/h included) was $133, which seems like a pretty good deal from where I've looked.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 12:09:32 AM   
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I've been able to glue the skids on both my Hirobo Lamas and the ESky Lama2 with CA if I carefully clean it first. Wrap some thread around the broken area and soak in some more CA. It's strong enough to hold unless you really smack it again. Been flying my XRB SR with a skid repaired this way for many months...

Personally I think these coaxial Helis are great training tools - and a great beginner Heli. Once I learned to nose-in hover the XRB in a small space, I had no problem nose-in hovering my larger Helis either - right on up to my P-Gasser.

The flybar holder on all of these coaxial machines is made of plastic or similar. I haven't broken the one on my Lama2 yet, but I did break one on my XRB once when someone bumped the throttle on the radio lying on the floor and it smacked into the ceiling
If the holder was metal, you couldn't spread it and you couldn't replace the flybar. Personally, I like the idea that it pops out easily (most of the time), because it saves the inner shaft and the flybar itself in many cases.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 12:18:46 AM   
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hmm, you've got a point, but it's still just doesn't seem like a good design... and is it just me, or does this heli only come with one control linkage attaching the flybar to the top blades?

About the gyro on this, how does turning the little adjustment change how it affects the heli (in terms of left and right) and where's the cheapest place to buy batteries/best alternative size? (such as 900mAh or less, but, that esky charger would damage a 750 cell as it's rated at .8 mAh charging rate)

PS: kamakazi, thanks for reminding me about that trick, I had forgoten the nylon and superglue trick, I'll try that later. Oh, and one more thing, yes the esky is a GREAT training tool, I probably never would have learned "ok" head in, in 30 minutes, BUT, if this was my first heli, I would just give up on my 36 which is currently a bucking bronco without a gyro on the tail (it's REALLY REALLY sensitive) I'll probably put the gyro back on if only for the de-senitivation, don't want to bother with that other stuff.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 12:51:01 AM   
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I tied a piece of dental floss from the flybar to the lower ball arm after I lost it in the grass a couple of times. havn't lost it since.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 1:26:57 AM   
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well, i got some pictures of my heli, and, had a nasty wreck, I've used up all my spare bottom blades (mostly due to learning to hover head in) as they're pretty fragile, then I broke the top half of the flybar holder. After CAing it back into place, I was flying and the bond broke, the flybar flew off, and the top blades went crazy (no stabilization) even though all this happened in a split second, I'm pretty sure the top blades sheared off half of one of the bottom ones. So, now, I need new bottom blades, and a new inner shaft. the problem is that I don't know where to find parts, heli-fever, the only place I know of with somewhat cheap parts, is out of stock of what I need, so, where do I find these? any help would be greatly obliged.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 1:27:30 AM   
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hmm, you've got a point, but it's still just doesn't seem like a good design... and is it just me, or does this heli only come with one control linkage attaching the flybar to the top blades?

About the gyro on this, how does turning the little adjustment change how it affects the heli (in terms of left and right) and where's the cheapest place to buy batteries/best alternative size? (such as 900mAh or less, but, that esky charger would damage a 750 cell as it's rated at .8 mAh charging rate)
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Yup, only one linkage on the top rotor. Same as the XRB, etc. The bigger adjustment pot (behind the hole) allows you to set the balance between upper and lower rotors - similar to the rudder trim. I haven't fiddled with mine yet, but if your rudder trim isn't close to center, you may need to tweak this. The other pot (no hole) is supposedly the gyro gain. If you turn it up the tail will hold better, but the piro rate will decrease. I kinda like the stock setting - the piro rate is insane

I bought another ESky 800mah Lipo - hardly seemed worth the trouble to get something else when the stock battery is only about $19 and has the correct connector on it already.

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 1:30:57 AM   
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ooh, 19 is better than I've found anywhere, where did you get that from?

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RE: E-SKY LAMA 2 THREAD - 12/31/2005 1:45:49 AM   
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