Hello guys just recently bought MLST, and Iwas lucky enough to get a motor from AON to test it.
Here I am: reviewing the AON T2415-4900 on the Mini LST; this is my first electric RC car. Being new to all that brushed and brushless motor I am going to try to do a truthful review of the AON motor.
The Installation Installing the new motor was made without any problem, I had to remove one of the differentials to get the center one out, and installing the AON was made on the existing motor mount using the same screws, with a bit of blue thread lock. For the electronic I got rid of the existing ESC, moved the receiver to its location and installing the new ESC to the empty space left, on the new ESC I used three layers of double sided tape to make it fit properly looks like the space left was made for it. The switch was taped to the whole left by the missing motor and easy to reach location when the body is on.
The Fun Part Lets say that before running this set up I’ve run the MLST stock making sure I had a good felling of the truck and let me tell you out of the box this truck as amazing abilities, good torque and the speed is decent, even made a ramp and a small circuit in the basement to have fun and see what I could accomplish whit the stock setup.
Now the AON, after the first run I had to readjust the slipper pads on the center differential to preserve the integrity of the drive train. One thing is sure if not done properly you guys are going to order new differential gears and a new spur gear too. I readjusted the slipper pad so went going full throttle from a dead stop it’s slipping around the first 12inchs of travel of the MLST, this adjustment is working good for me. This motor has so much torque its unbelievable, what I can say about it, it’s like installing a nitro bottle kit turn on permanently.
Performance Compared to the stock setting the top speed is about the same, but the time needed from a dead stop to get there is incredibly reduced. For what I can see the run time is about the same as original set up. Temperature wise the motor and ESC were always under the 130°f mark. If some of you guys need more speed out of it, a 3 cell lipo plus a pinion and spur change is going to achieve what you are looking for whit no problem at all.
Summary If you want more excitement out of your MLST and a proven motor and esc combination this set up is a good one and yes you probably can get another brand of motor thats going to propel your MLST to rocket speed but at the cost of replacing parts on the drive train more frequently, if your like me just wan to have fun bashing and at the local track I’ve found this combination to be pretty decent good speed and a lot of torque went required. I know I have a second MLST and the same set up is going into that one. Batteries wise I only run 6 cell packs and found a bit of cogging at the beginning but after some time setting up the Mamba-25 with the USB cable everything was fine. Best battery pack tested was IB 1200 there’s a lot of punch in this pack next best one tested is the LOSI pack that came with the kit the last one is the Peak Racing Boost just want to let you know this one is going to be converted to a receiver pack.
Equipments used for testing: -electric motor: AON T2415-4900 from AOM Electric -vehicle: MINI LST from TEAM LOSI -esc: Mamba-25 from Castle creation +USB cable -charger: Piranha Digital peak charger from Duratrax -battery pack: Team Losi 7.2 volts 1100 mAh Ni-MH stock item with the rtr kit Intellect IB 7.2 volts 1200 mAh Ni-MH (home made six cells pack) Peak Racing Boost 1400 mAh Ni-MH
If you guys have any questions go ahead and ask them I’m going to do my best to answer them.
Thanks to Steve at AON to give me the chance to test this motor.
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Still in the learning curve of nitro and electric R/C cars, but I like to think I’m getting somewhere :)
I trust everybody is enjoying their mlst. Unfortunatly for me, I tried using a 7 cell with the stock electronics and I fried the stock ESC. Hell it has a burn hole right through the casing. I was very annoyed as my mini-T stock esc can handle 7 cells no prob. Anyways I just thought I would let people in on the fact that team losi is replacing ALL the diffs and wheel locknuts on the MLST. I work for a large hobby shop in Canada and when we contacted them about my ESC they informed me about the new parts. Oh and this ain't bs either. I didn't get the chance to find out what the differences between the diffs are but as soon as I get my hands on em I will let everyone know.
< Message edited by [3rdArmy]Chinchilla -- 12/30/2005 4:59:55 AM >
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So far, nothing I know. Once again, it's a safety measure so the ball cups pop off instead of something breaking. Which is better, breaking something and being out until you replace it, or being out until you pop the ball cup back on?
What part can replace the stock ball cups? I hate popping them back on every 3 minutes.
Just use a peice of seran wrap and wrap it over the ball and re-apply the cup and you should be good to go. If it binds find somethin thinner (good luck). I used seran on my mini-t and it works great to keep everything nice and tight while still being able to move freely. Good luck
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G'day Fellas
I trust everybody is enjoying their mlst. Unfortunatly for me, I tried using a 7 cell with the stock electronics and I fried the stock ESC. Hell it has a burn hole right through the casing. I was very annoyed as my mini-T stock esc can handle 7 cells no prob. Anyways I just thought I would let people in on the fact that team losi is replacing ALL the diffs and wheel locknuts on the MLST. I work for a large hobby shop in Canada and when we contacted them about my ESC they informed me about the new parts. Oh and this ain't bs either. I didn't get the chance to find out what the differences between the diffs are but as soon as I get my hands on em I will let everyone know.
Maybe your gear mesh was too tight? I've been running 7 cells since I first got my mini lst and had no problems. I upgraded to a bl set up to up performance.
As for the new upgrade kit from losi its gear mesh from the input gear is tighter - YES!!! The new hexes are much better, fit near perfect - YES!!! It all comes in a nice, small bag (w grease) - ready to install. It may take a while, but it is worth it (plus you have some spare parts afterwards).
I think it had more to do with the connectors I was using. It's really my fault which really cam pisses ya off eh. Boo urns to being a dumbass. It's not like I didn't have access to proper connectors. I have a mamba 25 and a 6800 but until I can get a tougher driveline it's not worth it really. Now I have to play the waiting game on a replacement esc.
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Ofna, no you do not need a cell balancer. Arizona, here's the tire wheel combo. 4 HPI 3037 Mesh 2.2 wheels, along with 4 Proline 1071-00 Dirt Hawg tires in a 2.2 also.
Are you guys still running the factory MLST rims/tires. Im eating through these factory tires i was hopeing there was a new setup out there...or something compatable with the hex...it appears to be about 7mm. I really need an asphalt tire to come out because that seems to be where ill be spending the most time with it the grass seems to stay wet here in england so im hessitant to take it off road.