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algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/13/2006 4:08:55 PM)
Calixto, You are right on all previous statements. I have had lots of engines, all kinds, never could start them quickly, and always had those ugly black marks on the spinners. I would go to the RC airport and watch guys pull out some giant sized planes, start the motors with one blade of a hand prop. NOT ME......I always ended up in a mess of nitro oil, with rolls of paper towels, and bottles of custom made windex type cleaner. I LOVE ELECTRIC! MADE LIFE MUCH EASIER FOR ME....... Disclaimer: Do it at your own risk, electric is not for everyone. A

flyifr -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/14/2006 12:28:50 AM)
Thanks for the word of wisdom Al. Yep, I don't go flying IFR half cocked that is for sure...many hours as a GA pilot, even built an experimental. It went like this: GA pilot, RC pilot, RC builder, Experimental builder, RC ARF stick it together < GRIN >. Yep when the 180 was on a 1/5 Cessna, three flip for prime, two flips with ignitor, and she fired up. The 180 was on its side then and carb was pretty much in line with fuel line/tank. I am getting fuel there, as it runs out easily with the carb opening pointing down. I will give it few more attempts. Yes, I am doing this by myself in my back yard with the tail held by two PVC pipes hammered in the ground. I will not lie, the 180 is intimidating...so much compression when it is wet and with fire on the plug. THanks again for the encouragment and words of caution/support. Butch

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/15/2006 5:50:13 PM)
Al, Butch, some pictures of the repaired Telemaster, a dead pilot from a beautifull Mustang that crashed and and some of the club members discusing the demise of my autogyro and the crash of the Mustang. Calixto

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/15/2006 7:07:04 PM)
Calixto, Did I see grass, and lots of it? Did I see happy guys? I want to join your club. Seems like I could be in a new business, thanks to you. I have turned down several orders for the Panasonic D Snap, and several offers to buy one of mine. I fogot to tell you, I now have two. I declined all offers and I just steered the perspective customers to the internet, however, I gave you full credit for the camera referral. Any future videos will include two different perspectives and the cameras will be strapped to different airplanes. I want some in flight videos of other planes. I'm almost ready to upload some older videos, similar to the Telemaster videos, only taken from both on the ground and from inside my 1962 North American Aero Commander 500B while showing off before an air show. That airplane was bought from drug smugglers, flown by me for many years and re-sold to some people from Brazil. The word is that it is back to it's former use, it is being used fo fly fish.....ha ha ha. PS, Wonder what happened to Flyifr and his Saito 180 powered Telemaster? Al

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/15/2006 10:35:27 PM)
Al. Good to hear you found a good use for that little camera, No matter how hard I tried the wife would not let me buy a real airplane, so I settled for lots of rc airplanes instead .Butch is probably looking for the front end of his Telemaster somewhere a couple of miles upwind of his flying field. Looking forward to those videos. PS If you ever come to Panama, you would be our guest of honor at ASPADA, we do have a good group and have a lot of fun.

flyifr -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 12:45:00 AM)
Hey you two, I am here. Can't believe you would talk about me behind my back < GRIN >. Well if the dang 30 knot winds will subside, I will go fly. I cannot believe this circling low north of GA is doing this. I have never had a new plane that did not fly within days of completion and this one is sitting in my basement shop gathering dust due to weather. My D-Snap is to arrive tomorrow. I wonder how much more money can I pour into the TM before it takes flight. Reminds me...have you seen these guys flying with wireless cameras on board with IR glasses !!!! That is the coolest thing I have seen in a while and the money for the setup is not too bad ( glad my kids are grown now and gone..it is all about me and my toys) . YOu can be in business for about $1000. Boy is this tempting. Al, a Grumman was your toy huh ! My first left seat flying ever was in a little two seater, low wing, bubble canopy, trike grumman, I forget the model at the moment. All I remember about the flight was the sweat dripping down my back in that "easy bake oven" of a plane. Hopefully the weather will cooperate this week for me. Calixto, the TM looks fine, can't tell it was ever broken. I agree with Al, you guys look to be enjoying the moment !! Butch

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 1:52:24 AM)
Butch, I hated Gruman American single engine planes, never had a Grumman American single engine. One of my many planes was a North American, they made the AT6 and many B bombers. Over the last 20 years I have had more than 30 full sized planes. Not bragging, it was a better investment than anything else, and I got to fly them all. The Aero Commander was my favorite and I kept it off the market for 8 years. I will upload a video tonight, however I can't get the comperable video taken from inside the plane to work properly for edit. I have one video taken on the ground, then another in the cockpit, same flight. I want to hear more about the wireless camera stuff. A guy at the field mentioned that he saw one in action. Seems that the pilot used glasses to fly his plane quite a distance away. Al

MikeFreas -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 4:33:01 AM)
Al, These systems are by far the best for the money. They aren't cheep but you get what you pay for. Oh and I can't afford one. http://www.blackwidowav.com/index.html

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 4:13:00 PM)
Butch, Mike, Al. We shure have drifted from the original subject but it shure has been nice fun and informative to follow this thread. I will try to send some satellite images of our flying field downloaded from google earth, that is if I can manage to do that, if you have not been on that web site, please do, it is amazing, I can find my house and even my car on satellite images. Go to www.google.earth and try it. Calixto

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 5:11:33 PM)
Calixto, We haven't drifted that far yet. The Senion Telemaster is just a great foundation for all kinds of modifications and in flight video. MikeFreas has started another thread on modifications, however, I did a search and can't find it. Maybe you can find it Calixto and link to it. Technology is moving so fast that it seems to be a new project everytime we want to upload stuff. I have been screwing with a Video taken with a full sized VCR camera and converted to DVD. I don't have the camera any more, so all I have is the VCR tape and the DVD disk. In order to upload it, it is taking three conversions, DVD to Mpeg-4, Mpeg-4 to Avi, Avi to Windows Media. This all involved the purchase of crap software off the internet that won't work. Anyhow, I finally got it this morning, had to go to work and couldn't wait out the upload to Putfile, so I will upload it this evening. Next venture, Telemaster, the glider tow plane......This would be a good project for the guys in Panama..LOL ... I was just thinking about Flyifr'sTelemaster. His plane might actually be able to launch a full sized glider. LOL Al

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 5:30:50 PM)
Al, I did use my .40 size Telemaster as a glider tow plane for 2 meter gliders and it did a beautifull job, it flies as good as the sr. Telemaster with the advantage that it has flaps. I will modify the wing on the Sr. to add flaps, when you use flaperons, you loose aileron control and have to steer it with rudder. I agree with you if the airframe holds, Butch could tow his car with the Telemaster. Calixto

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/16/2006 8:26:00 PM)
Al, Butch, Mike. This are satallite pictures of our flying field, the long little lakes on the right hand side are the excavations started in 1939 by the US for the third set of locks that was halted by the secondo world war, further right you can see the Miraflores locks on the pacific siede of the canal. Calixto

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 12:40:49 AM)
Showing Off before the Watsonville, CA airshow. The mis-matched sounds at the end of the video is that of a war bird doing a fly bye behind me. Our group alway had to show off before and after the airshows. http://media.putfile.com/Showing-OFF-Final2 This is a video of what used to be my twin engine Telemaster, also known as a 1962 North American Rockwell 500b Aero Commander. Probably the safest twin engined aircraft ever made. You could shut down one engine and not know the difference. It could fly and climb to 10,000 feet with only one engine. It carried approx 3,000 lbs of weed, or 7 people and all their baggage. What a Telemaster this was. Al G

Greg Covey -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 12:46:47 AM)
Calixto, Nice photos. I was in Panama City back in 2000 or 2001. Fortunately, the salesmen I was traveling with could speak very good Spanish or I would have been in big trouble many times! :) Al, I like your Aero Commander. It feels like a very safe ride.

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 2:20:14 PM)
Hey Al. Bob Hoover used to make a terrific show with the same Aerocomander in most airshows in the US a few years back, did you ever see it? Calixto

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 2:24:07 PM)
Greg, nex time you come give me a call, I`ll be your guide and interpreter. Calixto

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 3:00:47 PM)
Calixto, You remember RA Bob Hoover? WOW! ...Yep, he was my inspiration. Wierd guy, they'd fly him in, he'd do the show, then, they would fly him out. The FAA tried to take his license away, said he was not competent, too old to fly aerobatics...He was just like a robot, dress him, put him in an Aero Commander, and he made that big bird really look good doing mild aerobatics and engine out landings. The following short video is a view from the inside of the big Telemaster that complements the first video. http://media.putfile.com/Showing-OFF-from-the-inside I had to upload these videos in order to make myself feel better about RC flying, as I am not a very good RC pilot. When I fly it gets alot of attention. Every weekend I bring multiple planes to the RC airport, and every weekend one doesn't come home. I am gratefull that I have a job. Do you know what I mean? The Telamaster owes me nothing, makes me look good, carries a camera, and requires no maintenance. Other than flying the Telemaster, I feel like Rodney Dangerfield of the RC airport. Al

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 4:40:30 PM)
Al I bet you miss that big Telemaster, it would make a great project to build one, do you know of a kit for the Aerocomander? Calixto

flyifr -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 5:36:35 PM)
Al/Calixto: Well I got the hemi Saito to fire up. It is still something about getting enough fuel in the cylinder. I put my finger as usual over muffler, hand prop it a couple of time ( one is enough to have fuel flowing out the carb and on the ground), but would not start. I picked the big ass bird up and turned it upside down and fuel ran to vent line, some in the muffler and then flipped it back on its feet…it then ran in the cylinder. I put igniter on and it fire the first time over with chicken stick. Over that hurdle at least for the time being. You would have laugh had you seen what was going on next. While it was idling at 2100 per my tack, the tail was flying already ! I had it chocked, so it was not going anywhere but sure as heck wanted to fly. Guess the tad excessive nose heavy is helping this phenominon. I receive my D-Snap yesterday, neat, another toy to learn how to operate. Hope to fly Saturday, will take stills prior to take off and maybe some inflight video…I could use the weight aft or on the CG ! With nose heavy, I will have to come in a little hot on the landings, this coupled with the fact that you guys say this plane does not like to stop flying is a little concerning. My runway is 400 feet asphalt and I have about 600 feet of sod/grass to land on. Question, did you guys use wing saddle tape/foam on the TM? Al, loved the video of the Aero Commander. I have always thought the nicest looking planes flying were the ones with the wing on top of fuse and no tires showing. I appreciate your love for that plane. Sorta reminds me of I believe it was a MitsubishiMU-2 ???? Anyways, a nice looking plane and the low passes were awesome. I saw old Bob a couple of times, Oshkosh was one of the times...he is rock solid. Butch

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 8:35:14 PM)
Butch. With a 16x8 prop and 2100 rpm idle, you better make shure you can kill the engine with your transmiter, otherwise you will land after you run out of fuel, not a second before. Allso you will have to carry the plane to where you are gonig to start your take off roll, otherwise you will take off from the pitts. Calixto

Calixto -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 8:38:41 PM)
It is good practice to use saddle tape allways.

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 10:13:23 PM)
Butch, You don't have a standard Telemaster, you have a hot rod. If the plane wants to move at idle, then just like Calixto said, it won't land. You actually might consider the alternative of installing a smaller prop. In addition, plan on landing on the numbers (just like I did in the Video of the Aero Commander), if you are going to overshoot, or come in at an altitude of more than 10 feet, you will not land at that 400 foot airport. I am impressed that I am in the company of guys that know good airplanes, 3D is for kids...well never mind, I won't continue on that track for fear of getting myself into trouble. (big mouth problem) The Mitsubishi MU-2 looks very similar to the Aero Commander, but, as you know, it is short, stubby, turbine engines, and is a very unsafe airplane. Land them hard and they will bend, fly them slow and they will stall very badly and kill all the occupants. The similar and equally dangerous airplane is the Ted Smith Aerostar. Skinny fuse, twin engines, seats six, and has short stubby high speed wings. Anyhow, did research on the RC Aerocommander and found a reason why kits were not made Beach King Airs, Aero Commanders, and other civilian airplanes....They are boring! The consumers will go for exciting RC airplanes all the time....OK I can live with that, but, what is more boring than flying a piece of foam? Is throwing a piece of foam out of a second story window and watching it flutter really exciting? Then why build a foam airplane? I have more up close videos of P51s, Bear Cats, T6s, B17s, P40s, and the Hangar 9 full size Corsair, more than you can count....I thought about uploading some excerps in the scale thread as a joke. LOL They look real, guys, but they might be RC...Not. Yep, wine during lunch today, can you tell? Al

flyifr -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 10:22:18 PM)
Calixto/Al...thanks for the advice. Been flying these things off and on for about 20 years, but not in such a restrictive amount of airspace and ground space. Will keep your comments in mind. Saddle tape is in Calixto, but thought I would ask. Never had a plane that did not have it and with this wing and loose fit of the spar that joins them, it is sorta tough to keep the joint tight while applying the rubber bands without it. I will do the bolt on upgrade at a later date, I just want to put it in the air once first. I might even go with a smaller engine. I have a old YS 50? or 60? around, but not sure that will fly it. I really don't want to go buy another dang engine with all the ones I have laying around, but at the same time, I don't want to waste a good ARF by planting it in the ground some how. I have only trashed about 4-5 planes in my 20 years, all dumb thumbs or engine failures at really unrecoverable times. I will let you all know how it goes. I don't think changing the prop will make any difference. Butch

flyifr -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 11:34:52 PM)
Al/Calixto...I have more money than time, just ordered a OS 91 Surpass, arrives Friday, will fly the TM Saturday with it....I should be more successful with less motor. I will save the Saito for a Hangar 9 Cessna 182 one day. Butch

algutkin -> RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF (5/17/2006 11:44:23 PM)
OK Butch, Way to go......Darn, I was looking forward to hearing or seeing something really unusual. Since we are in competition, I crashed more airplanes in the past two months than you did in the past 20 years. Am I inline for some kind of award? Yea, I thought you'd say that. It doesn't hurt my feelings, I try hard and I still have a job and working wife. LOL Just last month. The T6 is OK, The P40 is OK, The Telemaster JR is OK, the Transall bought the farm, the Hangar 9 Corsair bought the farm. I'm the short old guy with the big smile. Al

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