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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/7/2007 4:03:56 PM   
buchtes



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Status: offline 		say, do you still have the TT.61?, I need one for my TM

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/7/2007 5:15:01 PM   
JJeter1954


 

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Status: offline 		I traded it and an ol' TM (1 with th' 1 piece wing) for some heavy duty servo's an' other hardware I needed. Sorry...JJ

By th' way, I'm flying a new Hobby-Lobby ARF TM, guess thats why it's so light. I modified the battery tray to be removable & it will hold up to four 2150 mah TT 11v Li-Po's. I like to be able to take things apart if I need to.

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/7/2007 6:45:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for the fast reply ,JJ, I guess I'll buy a S.T. .61, I always been lucky with Tigre Products, esspecially way back when they where built in Italy. I am trying to make several Mod's on this TM, as coupling the elevator halves together with probably a 3/16 Hardwood Dowel, and controlling these with a single pushrod, if I can find some long enough. Controlhorns will be placed on the Bottom of the Elevator, not on top,this is stricktly cosmetic. Sullivan Golden Rods are not long enough , I need some about 4' long to be cut to length, same on the Rudder. I also try to manufacture Flaps on the inboard section of the trailing edge, controlled by two servos in Rib Bays. Also I'm not exactly happy with the tailwheel, the way they have it constructed the Rudder will absorb all the shock while rolling on the Ground. Do you know of a clean and save way to get rid of the Decals, I was hoping they leave them off and include these in the box, but the Bird was decorated when it arrived. Personally I had a different color scheme in mind.
Buchtes

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/7/2007 10:07:57 PM   
JJeter1954


 

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Status: offline 		I tried gently heating an area of th' decal but it just got sticky so I quit that. Recovering would be th' best(I think) way to change th' color scheme. As for th' flaps, I just split th' ailerons along th' middle hinge, and used th' original flap/aileron as is. Simple and effective. I did re-pin th' hinges with toothpcks, they already have small holes through th' hinges anyway. Gently buffed off th' ends top and bottom. You can barely see them when finished. Th' aileron servo mounts are out on th' middle of new shorter aileron, mounted just like the factory ones out of hardwood ply in the corner of the ribs on the same line as th' original mounts. It works out really slick without much trouble at all, just cut th' covering on 3 sides only and peel it back only as much as you need to epoxy th' new mount in. Then just glue or heat th' covering right back in it's place. A lil' invisible tape and it's done..Have a Great Week-End...JJ

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/15/2007 1:23:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, my second crash in a month becuase of my mistakes. Today I was flying the STM like I do every weekend. This is only the third week since recovering the bird and making some other modifications like my flaps. It so happens the my inexperance with flaps caused me to crash. I have my 9303 programed with a 2 second delay between full up and down flaps. I like the delay because it's more of a smooth transition. Well I was making a slow full flap pass and decided to go around and applied full throttle. Well with full flaps and full throttle the bird climbs almost vertical until it stalls and that's just what it did today. I hit the switch to retract the flaps and applied full down elevator but it was to late and low. I managed to nose it over and get some airspeed then pulled full up. I impacted the ground at about a 45 degree angle.

The pictures look bad but the bird will be fixed. I need to pull all the covering off the wing to inspect it because it's damaged in places. The fusalage is cracked just about in half. Good news is my pack is good and will be headed back to true RC to add an another cell to make 6s during the down time. I'm also going to look for a cowl to make it look better. Anyway, crashing sucks!


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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/15/2007 3:06:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Mike.

Sorry about your crash ¡¡¡OUCH!!! You should mix in a little down elevator with flaps to compensate for the tendency to balloon when you apply flaps with full throtle, I did it and it works fine, it will take a little trial and error before you get it just right.

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/15/2007 7:10:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have down elevator dialed in and she flies perfect with full flaps and no throttle. I was full down elevator under power and it still went nose up. Too much flap for the elevator I guess.

Two things will fix this

1. Program my radio to retract the flaps above x% throttle like I had it first
2. Don't try and fly with full flaps and power!

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/15/2007 9:54:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mike, probably you don`t have enough down elevator, I can burn a full tank of fuel with the flaps down and full throttle with my Telemaster, both the Senior and the .40 I did put about 5º down thrust on the engine.

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/16/2007 3:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just wanted to pass on an experience I had last season with the Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster.

Due to a bad experience with Hobby Lobby last season, I am avoiding buying their kits at this point. Last year the first Senior Telemaster I had came with the hinges very tightly in place........so I thought. The manual said to glue them in place, but they were too tight to remove. So I called Hobby Lobby and they assured me that the hinges had been glued, and that there was an error in the manual.

I was on my 10th or 11th flight, straight and level, in cruise, when all of a sudden there was tremendous flutter either from the ailerons or elevator. The plane became uncontrollable, and I totaled it. Inspection of all servos revealed they were all working and no gears were stripped. Upon inspection of the now cracked-open hinge lines I noticed that THERE WAS NOT ONE DROP OF GLUE ON ANY HINGE ON THE AIRPLANE!

I reported this to Hobby Lobby, and even sent them the wings, elevators, and rudder. They didn't believe me, and gave me a bag of crap. The support guy I talked to was skeptical and arrogant. Later a manager called and said "What can we do for you?". I said I was just letting them know that there is a major flaw in the kit which resulted in my loosing an airplane. I was hoping they would fix the flaw so that other pilots would not have the same dangerous experience I did. They thought they could shut me up by sending another Telemaster, at no cost, which hey did. But they never agreed to acknowlege the flaw in the kit, nor did they assure me that it would be corrected.

They sent me a new Telemaster, and upon close inspection of its hinge lines, I noted that NONE of the hinges were glued again. But they were tightly held in place by tiny 1/8 inch wood screws under the covering material! I called them again just to warn them, and to suggest they leave those stupid screws out of the kit.

They ignored me. I cut throught covering over every screw, removed them, and have epoxied all my hinges. But I will probably never buy another plane from Hobby Lobby because of this experience.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL, LOOK FOR THOSE SCREWS, AND GLUE YOUR HINGES!!!!!

Dick Byrnes
Sellersville, PA

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/21/2007 1:53:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		drbyrnes , I wonder if yours was a isolated case of Mfg. error or has anyone else had some bad experiences with telemaster hinges. I e-mailed Hobby Lobby with this regard , a investigation was promised but so far no reply. They may want to sweep this issue under the rug but "WE" ( Telemaster Customers and Owners) want let them. We will hold these Guys accountable if there is a major flaw with the hinges in the Senior Telemaster ARF.
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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/21/2007 9:05:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Come to think of it when I cut the center hinge in half for the flaps, that's when I discovered the lil' screw and how loose the hinge was! I took them all out 1 by 1 and glued them never thinking that they should have been glued at the factory. It was sheer luck that mine didn't come apart like that, especially with flaps too!....JJ

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/21/2007 10:32:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		next question, what is the closest color in Mono-cote,Ultra-Cote,Coverite etc. to match the factory covering color? Looks like I'm going to strip the whole Model and look for eventual flaws, the Hinges are scary, God only knows what is hidden under the covering?, while scanning the Ribroots of both wing- halves I see that one wing is about 5mm thicker then the other and do not match up when mounted on the two Spars. I scanned them to make a centerwing template for a modification from Rubberbands to tongue and Bolt style fastening. This ARF from Hobby Lobby is very disappointing to say the least.
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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/21/2007 10:42:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have no idea as to a color match, perhaps Mr. Frea can help with that...JJ

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/21/2007 10:46:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope so...........

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RE: Hobby Lobby Sr. Telemaster ARF - 10/22/2007 11:46:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Monokote or Ultracote Cub Yellow is close enough not to tell but it's not going to work on the factory "covering". Do yourself a favor if your planning on covering large sections of the model and strip the entire thing and start over. The "covering" that comes wih the model sucks and melts really easy.

Now I'm sure that there are hundreds of ARF's flying to this day completly stock but knowing what I know about the build quality I'd say strip the covering and re-glue all joints! When I did mine I found that ALL of the wing ribs had one drop of glue at each point it came into contact with another piece and most all had come loose. Also, the tail section is poorly constructed and my tail was cracked the entire way across the sheeting which, by the way, is used for most of the tail strength.

I'm not bashing HL or the bird. Most made in China models are this way. Take a look and you will see what I'm talking about.

Oh, the hinges are screwed in stock. I replaced all of mine with good epoxy dubro hinges.

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