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ORIGINAL: BAMF90

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A 3.3 engine is a POS, I'd much rather have a 4.6 engine. The 3.3's rear bearing dies very quickly, if it doesn't and u get to the 2-2.5 gallon mark the conrod will split at the gidgeon pin OR you will lose compression around 3 gallons if your lucky. The 3.3 isn't a great performer IMO, the 18 tm can beat it in torque and keep up with it in top speed and the Revo 3.3's wide ratio gearing is to much for the engine, it bogs when it hits second gear and takes to long to wind out. Stock for stock, the revo is a better truck, a savage is either a full blown out racer that doesn't get more than 4 ft of air or it is a savage, destined to go to some club days and live its life in the air.

Now thats what I call BULL$#!T. First of all have you ever even owned a 3.3? If you have then you would know how good of an engine it actually is. Sure, it's not the best engine out there, but for the price, you can't beat it! And if you even try to say that it can't beat a TM in a race, then I call that BS again, because you know what, I can bet you've never seen a 3.3 go against a TM. I race my dad's friends Revo with a TM vs. my Revo with a 3.3 every Sunday, and you know who wins? I DO! And no it's not because I am the better driver because he can drive too, but it's because the 3.3 is built for both power and speed. Also one more thing, I'm sure I might be jynxing something here, but I might as well let you guys know, I'm almost at the 4 gallon mark on my 3.3, and guess what, NO PROBLEMS SO FAR. Another thing, you said the 3.3 bogs down with wide ration gearing, well guess what, wrong again. NOT IF YOU FRIGGEN KNOW HOW TO TUNE. Hope this clears everything up for the 3.3 VS. TM.

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You have no idea what you're on about bud. The 3.3 would win against a 2.5r with an 18 tm because of the wide ratio, in saying that the 3.3 DOES bog down. The 3.3's price is stupid for what it is. It's $160 in stores, the 18 tm is $180. The 18 tm has more torque and top end than the 3.3 if you have them in the same truck set up exactly the same, want to know how I know? Because I have 3 friends with revo's and they have a friend with a 2.5r and a 3.3 in it. If you want to make the bet about me never seeing the race, go ahead put on a big one, because all you will be doing is handing your money over to me. You listen to when a revo 3.3 with the 3.3 changes gears, it bogs down and takes to long to wind out. The wide ratio is to much for both of these engines in question, but the OS is a better engine in reliability, power, ease of use and durability. Go to www.traxxas.com and read all the threads that are titles "my 3.3 grenaded on the 2 gallon mark, I am experiences, traxxas better warranty this". Get your facts straight you loser, the 3.3 is a POS engine.

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You have no idea what you're on about bud. The 3.3 would win against a 2.5r with an 18 tm because of the wide ratio, in saying that the 3.3 DOES bog down. The 3.3's price is stupid for what it is. It's $160 in stores, the 18 tm is $180. The 18 tm has more torque and top end than the 3.3 if you have them in the same truck set up exactly the same, want to know how I know? Because I have 3 friends with revo's and they have a friend with a 2.5r and a 3.3 in it. If you want to make the bet about me never seeing the race, go ahead put on a big one, because all you will be doing is handing your money over to me. You listen to when a revo 3.3 with the 3.3 changes gears, it bogs down and takes to long to wind out. The wide ratio is to much for both of these engines in question, but the OS is a better engine in reliability, power, ease of use and durability. Go to www.traxxas.com and read all the threads that are titles "my 3.3 grenaded on the 2 gallon mark, I am experiences, traxxas better warranty this". Get your facts straight you loser, the 3.3 is a POS engine.

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ORIGINAL: Kdog3.3

This has to take the record of most replys to a subject. To those who think the 3.3 is a piece of crap, i would like to share this with you. I have a tmaxx2.5 with a 3.3 and i dont tune good at all. barely moved the needles from breakin. I went to the track one day running it so rich it takes about a tank for it to warmup. Once it did it was flying. I was going down the straightaway keeping up with a xtm mammoth st. I have stock everything. The mammoth was stock but it had the 24.7 big block. The guy driving it new how to tune it and everything. Dont tell me it still is a piece of crap. and by the way, the3.3 never reached 200 degrees. Think about that Also I think the revo is better