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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 12:54:54 AM

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dude you need get out more

MY REVO WILL OUTBASH A SAVAGE ANYDAY , my revo is not stock

and has been upgraded to handle bashing , sounds to me like you just didnt want to put the money into the revo like I did , but before you go talking any smack about the revo you better get your facts straight because I am tired of people saying the savage is the ultimate basher . I am strictly a basher and thats all I do and I dont baby my rides bro, I got the cash to fix a part if something brakes , trust me on this one , I OWN BOTH TRUCKS AND HAVE BASHED BOTH TRUCKS , MY revo will outbash a savage anyday , SORRY

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 2:08:14 AM

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jeez... some people, his opti drive? lol.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 2:30:50 AM

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I really don't see the thought process in this argument....kinda like comparing apples to oranges.

Revo = 1/10th scale & small block & light ... Savage = 1/8th scale & big block & heavy... It's really pretty clear.

Build a Savage out of plastic and it would break also!!
Upgrade a T-Maxx with 1/8th scale parts and it stops breaking too!

You don't hear any arguements like "My 1/8th scale buggy can take more of a beating than your Revo...blah, blah ,blah...." because they are not the same type of vehicle.

A big block Revo with upgraded parts would be a fair comparison to a Savage...

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 3:27:01 AM

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LOL... uh oh... you've angered freez.

I have a stock Revo (other than engine/gearing) and I bash just fine... I don't have anything special... and I can bash my truck like crazy. I don't have experience with a Savage... but freez does... and so do a few of my other friends... I have yet to bash with 'em... but... I know my Revo has proven to be an AWESOME basher.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 3:58:45 AM

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it all comes down to money both truck can be the best but the question is are you willing to dump some cash in to it

and freez my guess is that you have invested a fair amount in your revo to get it to what it is today and same goes to most other trucks

so in the end it all depends on the main structural design of the truck and the height, width and wheelbase. i like the look of the savage tvps but others might dig the mono chassis of the revo.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 5:22:27 AM

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his savage is pimped out too, 3 speed, collari 32, etc. so its apples to apples at this point and the revo always comes out on top. if ya have both trucks tweaked out to the max you can give an honest bottom line opinion. thats what the guy originally asked, "what truck should i buy?" i think i would listen to freez.....

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 2:12:39 PM

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"my revo will outbash a savage any day"...... garbage! I have owned a revo for over a year and let me inform you all they are not a seasoned basher. They are better suited to track applications.Yes it's nimble and yes it's fast, HOWEVER, I have honestly gotten bored of ordering broken and worn parts for my revo.... broken engine mount, blown engine, two gear box failures, optidrive failure,numerous shock rod ends and toe links, broken servos, blown starter motor and carb failure to name a few. The entire driveline in the revo is mostly PLASTIC. The engine is prone to overheating, this is why I lost mine. I have now lost all interest in bashing my revo. It's just not up to it. And before I am insulted with the words "user error", I am 30 yrs of age and have over 10 years of experience in r/c nitro.

I will not start banging on about how tough the savage is. Any experienced truck enthusiast knows the savage is the ultimate basher. It's in all the forums and magazines. There is NO argument.

Revopqrs...."throw a bigblock in a revo and its bye bye savage" well..thats stating the obvious. If I threw a bigblock into a mini, it would keep with a ferrari.

The whole apples to oranges thing was directed at this post... not to Freez. I totally agree w/ you (revoqrs) and Freez on this subject.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 6:45:49 PM

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Freez: I have my facts perfectly straight thankyou

and you seem to be contradicting yourself by saying.."my revo has been upgraded to handle bashing" this is my point, you have had to spend 100's of $$$ just to make your truck bashworthy. More fool you!

Gsc71: "build a savage out of plastic and it would also break".."A bigblock revo with upgraded parts would be a fair comparison to a savage". You have hit the nail on the head...the revo is mostly made of PLASTIC and it DOES brake and DOES need upgrading to make it bashworthy as Freez is finding out

Revopqrs: "Jeez..his optidrive", yeah.. you could say that... failure of this 'innovative' little feature destroyed my gearbox

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 7:56:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spurface

Freez: I have my facts perfectly straight thankyou and you seem to be contradicting yourself by saying.."my revo has been upgraded to handle bashing" this is my point, you have had to spend 100's of $$$ just to make your truck bashworthy. More fool you!

Gsc71: "build a savage out of plastic and it would also break".."A bigblock revo with upgraded parts would be a fair comparison to a savage". You have hit the nail on the head...the revo is mostly made of PLASTIC and it DOES brake and DOES need upgrading to make it bashworthy as Freez is finding out

Revopqrs: "Jeez..his optidrive", yeah.. you could say that... failure of this 'innovative' little feature destroyed my gearbox

I also found out that the savage is also not a basher out of the box it too needs to be upgraded so whats your point

all I saw was someone say the savage is a better basher then the revo , IT's NOT in my oppinion

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 8:09:58 PM

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree with Spurface... I have a relatively stock Revo... and it bashes beautifully. Even stock, my Revos bashed nicely. I only upgraded mine because I like the extra power with the TM323... and my reverse gear blew out... (hence the FOC)... the suspension worked fine out of the box, however I like it stiff, so I threw some heavy oil in it... and the LT springs on it... and for the race I had with 2DMaxLST, I put P2's on it... *shrug* It's a great basher... and I know you don't want anyone to say it, but overheating is USER ERROR. LOL... everyone has their own experiences, and you're entitled to your opinion, but the Revo has been proven time and time again to be a strong basher. You don't NEED all the upgraded parts that freez has put on his Revo to make it work.... it just makes life a bit nicer. I'm pretty sure the Savage has plastic parts, too... so... your "plastic" argument is void of validity.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 8:56:31 PM

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RF, my 'plastic' argument is valid. The entire driveline in the revo is PLASTIC...unlike the savage. Regards my TRX engine.....it threw a fit and overheated after 1 &1/2 gallons despite being run slightly rich on both HSN and LSN continually from break- in (used traxxas method to the letter), tornado 16% fuel used, airfilter (m/s) meticulously cleaned and generously oiled after each run, after run oil after each run, temps frequently recorded in the 220-260 degrees range and constant checks for air leaks in fuel tubing, tank and engine. As you can see I am no duffer when it comes to nitro maintainace and tuning. My OS18TM holds a tune like a grandfather clock. 'USER ERROR' is unlightly.

Freez, the upgrades you are most likely referring to are now included in the savage LE kit, which IS ready to bash out of the box.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 9:02:20 PM

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The entire driveline in the revo is PLASTIC...unlike the savage.

So? My "plastic" driveline has held up quite nicely (again... other than reverse) I've never broken a driveshaft... nor have I torn up the forward gears in the transmission... I've spent a few spurs, but they were due to user error... I hate that argument... just because something is plastic doesn't mean it's not as good. Just so you know... aluminum BENDS... CVD's break.. everything breaks... it's a part of life. Just because it has plastic (nylon) parts doesn't mean it's crap.

P.S. What temp gun did you use to check your temps?

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 9:07:31 PM

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Venom onboard. Yes it was installed correctly. And I never said plastic was 'crap'. It's just weaker than steel.

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RE: Savage SS vs. Revo - 12/3/2005 9:16:41 PM

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When I first ordered my Revo, I was very concerned about the plastic drive shafts. I found the metal upgrades I wanted and decided to replace all of them as soon as I broke any plastic driveshaft part. Guess what. 2 gallons of nitro and 2 bodies later I am still running the plastic driveshafts. I would much rather they be high grade metal shafts, but I have been very pleased with the quality of the Revo stock shafts. They are a lot tougher than they look.

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