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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 3:47:30 AM

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You could order one from an electronics supply but it wouldn't be a cool looking light weight one with an integral charge jack.

I think the RC market needs a 4 pole HD switch with an integral charge jack.

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Ok, that explains it then. It would be nice to have a 4 pole switch wouldn't it?

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 10:41:35 AM

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I wonder if two independent chargers like the LN 5014 would have the same problem of not being able to charge into a common ground. If their internal switching supplies use a transformer for isolation they should be able to. Unfortunately this year the money will go into buying a 1.20 4 stroke instead.

If you want 4PDT swtiches I'd just mount 2 heavy duty DPDT slide switches side by side in the aircraft and then physically gang the slides to a single push pull knob somewhat like Dubro does with their charge ports.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 12:26:51 PM

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Why doesn't the common ground effect the wall warts? I'm still using them and my timer on my set up with two 1100 batteries running the receiver. I'm using the Elite on my single 1950 NiMH and 1100 Nimh ignition system.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 2:36:45 PM

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If you are using two wall warts, then you have two transformers and the grounds being connected are electrically the same. It should not make a difference. Think of it as the common is connect to the return of the transformer which is connecter to the ground lead. If you ohm them out (with power off) you may find that they are all connected.

NOW, if you ran off of negative voltage, I don't think it would work!

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 6:17:03 PM

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I did some thinking about this because I thought you had a good idea. But for a dual battery system you'd need a total of 4 switches. It would require a lot of soldering. Then I realized something else. Just consider one battery and two switches: I realized that to do this you'd have to have the red lead from the battery going to one switch's red. The battery's black lead goes to the other switch's red. So now the integral charge jacks would not work. You'd need to make a custom charge jack. This is because on neither charge jack would the switch's black be connected to the battery's black. Only the switch's red is connected to the battery on each charge port.

I'm pretty sure that's right.

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If you want 4PDT swtiches I'd just mount 2 heavy duty DPDT slide switches side by side in the aircraft and then physically gang the slides to a single push pull knob somewhat like Dubro does with their charge ports.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 6:20:19 PM

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You just connect the parallel switch in between the ground going to the receiver. Your charge jack would work the same and the common ground would be disconnected.
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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 6:28:18 PM

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Not following that. I need a diagram of what you're talking about. I sketched one out at work and figured out how to make only one of the charge jacks work by just soldering a jumper between the switches. Only one charge jack would work though (which is fine).

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You just connect the parallel switch in between the ground going to the receiver. Your charge jack would work the same and the common ground would be disconnected.
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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 7:54:42 PM

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You are now where I was 6 months ago.
I decided it was easier to just unplug the pack and go on.

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I did some thinking about this because I thought you had a good idea. But for a dual battery system you'd need a total of 4 switches. It would require a lot of soldering. Then I realized something else. Just consider one battery and two switches: I realized that to do this you'd have to have the red lead from the battery going to one switch's red. The battery's black lead goes to the other switch's red. So now the integral charge jacks would not work. You'd need to make a custom charge jack. This is because on neither charge jack would the switch's black be connected to the battery's black. Only the switch's red is connected to the battery on each charge port.

I'm pretty sure that's right.

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If you want 4PDT swtiches I'd just mount 2 heavy duty DPDT slide switches side by side in the aircraft and then physically gang the slides to a single push pull knob somewhat like Dubro does with their charge ports.

John

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 8:28:22 PM

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Geist, you are correct. It's way too complicated. If they just made the right switch it would be worth it. Making one is a cluster.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 8:41:10 PM

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posted in another thread...but never saw the answer (if it is known).... if you charge one pack at a time, is it OK....

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 9:40:35 PM

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What is hard in breaking the lead that goes to the receiver, there is only one that comes off from the switch harness? What is hard in physically paralleling the switch knobs? You are making this way more complicated than it is. Just my two cents.
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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/7/2005 9:51:00 PM

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PS.
Take the existing switch harness. Put in another switch. Make the switches operate at the same time. Break the lead that goes to the receiver from the switch harness. BINGO - done - end of story - simple.
John

EDIT-> In a dual battery setup this only has to be done to one switch harness because it breaks the battery common link.

The extra switch should be a DPDT heavy duty switch just like the one in the harness. Use both poles for redundancy just like the harness which switches the positive side.

If you don't trust me to test this setup to make sure it works do an ohm meter test between the negative lead charge jacks. You will find it open.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/8/2005 12:19:23 AM

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JNorton,

Yep that would work. Just need to break it on one of the switches. Right now the wall warts and timer is too simple not to use in my two battery set up. When one of those batteries go, I'm going to switch it over to a 1950 mAh NiMH pack with dual leads also and just use my Elite to charge it, then hook up to the wall wart/timer/1 hr/day to keep it topped off.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/8/2005 3:08:55 AM

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Charging one pack at a time works. Disconnecting one pack and charging both works as well. I disconnect both packs and charge them.

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RE: Accu Cycle Elite ? - 12/8/2005 3:34:50 AM

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There's no way I'm putting two switches per battery in my planes, end of story.

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