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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/15/2006 8:44:38 PM

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Oh the table is ok.... the prop was hanging off the end of the table, and it did a carrier launch and hit my daughter's high chair...! Doh!

Sounds like your charger will be real nice... getting them all done at once the night before a big flying day should save you a few trips to the barn!

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/15/2006 9:50:57 PM

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It still has a bit of wobble in the yaw axis, speed seems to help this annoying trait.

My Great Planes RV-4 does the same thing. I think it and the 190 have too small of a vertical stab, hidden behind a large fuselage.

Glad to hear that things are working better, though.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/15/2006 10:33:25 PM

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PHLIP, the huge amount of fuselage ahead of the CG is something I wonder about, too. A P-47 must have similar quirks.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/16/2006 10:06:37 PM

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CP,

Sorry to hear that all that hard work didn't pay off like you hoped. I started a Guillows P51-D set up for a Norvel .061 a couple of years ago. I need to finish that someday. I may go electric with it though. I think things will be easier to install if I go that route. Keep till the Fourth of July and make it rocket assisted!

. That's what I used to do as a kid with my Rubber Powered planes I was sick of.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/16/2006 11:49:17 PM

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HEC, it was one of those deals where my curiosity got the better of my judgement. I always considered these kits a risk if you value your flying time to building time ratio. They are more for builders than flyers as far as I'm concerned. The MUSTANG and ME 109 should be better flyers, I based my P-51 SWR on a GUILLOWS kit and it flies great, no wobbles.

I was surprised to see how well the plane could take a stuff into the mud, it was underground up to the leading edge and the pilot survived !

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/17/2006 3:03:56 AM

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Hey,
It's been awhile since I have been on here, but in the mean time i have been building a guillows FW 190. The way you guys talk, it sounds like a waste of time, but i'm going to persevere. I have an idea to line the inside of the original guillows cowl with 1/16" or 3/32" balsa and put a glue-film on it. I believe this will make it a little more rigid and prevent the exhaust from eating a hole in it as well. But what do you all think?
I also have a little problem with the engine. For some reason

I bought a .049 cox Black Widow, with the 8cc tank, that is before I bought the kit and did not do any dimensions checks. So what I am inquiring about is how to make this big engine/ longer engine fit inside the cowl, without the snap starter sticking out the end? Could I modify the firewall to accomodate?

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/17/2006 3:20:13 AM

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I would lengthen the front end to allow moving the cowl forward. Leave the firewall where it is at, and glue balsa blocks in front of the firewall, then carve and sand to match the perimeter shape of the existing fuselage. Are you just looking for another 1/2 inch? The plane isn't a complete waste of time........it's a partial waste of time

. I don't think the exhaust will melt the cowl, but I could be wrong.....naa, it's far enough away.

Keep the tail light and place everything as far forward as you can, without a fuel tank to mess with inside the plane, you can take advantage of the extra room. Keep working at it and let us know how it turns out.....maybe I just built a lemon?

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/18/2006 1:49:31 AM

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thanks,
I did plan to utilize the extra room in the fuselage. I now need to get some radio equipment. What type would you suggest? I need to go cheap, cause I'm on a tight budget ( I just got radio gear for an Air Scout).
It sounds to me that a problem with the plane is that it is top heavy. If the CG is still too high, I bet you could rig it up to place and mout the radio gear in the wing section under the fuselage. of course some of it would petrude out (actually up) into the fuselage (thats what i'll do). The addition of more dihedral deffinitely would help out. Prolly a half inch or so.
What I think I might do is make another firewall out of fiberglass or ply (so I have one incase I screw up) and do some experiments with the location of the engine. I do know that the fuselage itself will need some modifications. The plan says that the plane can fly by a Tee Dee Medalion. The Black Widow is larger so I'll have to drill new holes in the mount.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/18/2006 2:20:16 AM

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By the time I bought a couple of cheap 3 channel FOCUS radios, then spent money on repair work shortly thereafter, I could have just bought a medium priced 4 channel set. Radios of all price ranges can fail, but I think the ultra cheap sets are more prone to eating airplanes and causing head aches. I think your idea of adding dihedral will smooth the plane out somewhat on windy days, It could also use a slight enlargement of the fin/rudder to eliminate the fish tailing.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/18/2006 2:41:29 AM

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I agree with the tail enlargement. Come to think of it, I was just talking to a friend about radios a lil while ago. he said he could get hold of a radio (small one) but I dunno how cheap, but they come with crystals on any bandwidth(so he said), so if it looks like a good investment I'll do it (and try not to get burned by someone). I'll look into it in the meantime. I only need a two channel, one for elevator and one for rudder. As you may know, I plan to use the black widow, so there is no throttle linkage needed. However, I have an old transmitter that I'm sure i can use.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 1/18/2006 2:58:09 AM

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That's right, with R/E, you'll need more dihedral and more rudder, I guess the trick is to get just enough to make the plane responsive, without making it unrecognizable to a scale fanatic. Actually, to a scale fanatic, you aren't supposed to change anything, no matter how pathetic it ends up flying.

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RE: GUILLOWS' FW 190 - 3/9/2006 1:13:59 AM

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finally got back to building the 190, this is what i've done so far:
-installed some GWS micro servo's (quite small

)
-a GWS 6ch micro receiver (also small)
-built the wings and incorporated a battery pack to fit in the wing root
-moved the engine back about 1/4"- 3/8" (i couldn't find a better way without compromising the scale look)
-added ailerons, which probably wasn't a good idea (I could use a second oppinion on that)
(I gotta know, is GWS a POS?

)

I sheeted the forward areas of the fuz in the more important areas that would absorb the most in the event of an impact. I made a plaster mold of the cowl so I could make another fiberglass one, I just havn't got around to doing it yet. Carved a balsa block to fit between the 1st and 2nd formers, for a hatch so I could get better access to the needle valve and to fill it. I still need to cover the fuz and find a way to attach the wings, any suggestions.
I did however add some extra dihedral. I thought it would be interesting to make the exhaust ports appear scale as well. Whats the average weight of one of these, fully loaded; I figure mine to be about 6 oz., give or take a bit.
I'll try to get some pics of the planes progress as soon as i can.

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