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savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:04:08 PM   
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i thought this is a good truck,, but here it goes,
i had it for about 4 month and about 4 gallon of fuel, and yes i know how to tone engines:
1- engine failed at 1 gallon, carb getting loose from engine. poor design. i ended up buying 4.6
2- the clutch system is half engineered, gone through alot of spur gear to the point where am using new one evrey second tank. the truck will run ok on dirt , but when you run on some grass its gone
3- new transmission on the second tank, then i found about the problem with first gear, again poor design
4-few one way bearings, no i dont flood the engine it just happened
5-very poor radio box
so why do pepole recommend this truck? i talk pepole out of it, the revo is way better, verey good design, at least you can run through few tanks before taking it a part, savage will not run for 3 tanks without taking it a part. thanks

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:11:39 PM   
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wow sounds like you got a wednesday truck. was it a savage 25 or ss? i built my ss and have loved it. i have had it for about a year and a half running several gallons of fuel through it. the engine going bad and loose carb, could be an air leak but u can tighten the carb down pretty enough so it doenst come loose... going through spur gears, sounds like its not set right. i personally go by feel and i have nvr in my life stripped one and im not joking. not sure about the transmission... ill agree on the radio box but thats why everyone mods it so its better. so just sounds like your truck wasnt all together or something...






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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:14:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bryston

i thought this is a good truck,, but here it goes,
i had it for about 4 month and about 4 gallon of fuel, and yes i know how to tone engines:
1- engine failed at 1 gallon, carb getting loose from engine. poor design. i ended up buying 4.6
2- the clutch system is half engineered, gone through alot of spur gear to the point where am using new one evrey second tank. the truck will run ok on dirt , but when you run on some grass its gone
3- new transmission on the second tank, then i found about the problem with first gear, again poor design
4-few one way bearings, no i dont flood the engine it just happened
5-very poor radio box
so why do pepole recommend this truck? i talk pepole out of it, the revo is way better, verey good design, at least you can run through few tanks before taking it a part, savage will not run for 3 tanks without taking it a part. thanks




I must be doing something wrong. My Savage has none of those issues. I went through 1 spur gear in almost 3 gallons of fuel. Motor runs strong and no other problems.

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:16:02 PM   
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the mish was right, i even brought it to my LHS few times and they did set the mish few times did not solve the problem, and i think they are dropping the line bc they had a lot of problem with them.

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:28:03 PM   
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I just got mine on friday so i have no bad news on the savage. I'm on my second tank of fuel on the break in process and it has lots of power and i havent even touched the needles yet. Maybe you just got a bad one, did you cal hpi when you had the problems to see if they would warrenty any of it. I know i had a 2.5 t-maxx and it had issues and traxxas would not help at all and that didnt sit well with me so i no longer up talk traxxas. That t-maxx i had was a money pit from the start. Best of luck bro

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:48:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: alvinl

quote:

ORIGINAL: bryston

i thought this is a good truck,, but here it goes,
i had it for about 4 month and about 4 gallon of fuel, and yes i know how to tone engines:
1- engine failed at 1 gallon, carb getting loose from engine. poor design. i ended up buying 4.6
2- the clutch system is half engineered, gone through alot of spur gear to the point where am using new one evrey second tank. the truck will run ok on dirt , but when you run on some grass its gone
3- new transmission on the second tank, then i found about the problem with first gear, again poor design
4-few one way bearings, no i dont flood the engine it just happened
5-very poor radio box
so why do pepole recommend this truck? i talk pepole out of it, the revo is way better, verey good design, at least you can run through few tanks before taking it a part, savage will not run for 3 tanks without taking it a part. thanks




I must be doing something wrong. My Savage has none of those issues. I went through 1 spur gear in almost 3 gallons of fuel. Motor runs strong and no other problems.



same here ive never had anything like what bryston described happen to my savage. The spur gear i have is the one that came stock with the truck and it has had 4 gallons from the S.25 and almost 2.5 gallons from the sh.28

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 4:52:31 PM   
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bryson, the carb coming loose from your engine caused it to fail? how? this all sounds like USER ERROR to me. i'll be glad to take that Savage off your hands if you don't like it.

there's nothing wrong with the truck-if you go through slipper clutches like you claim, you're running it too loose, your fault.

nothing wrong with the radio box.

and one-way bearings...YOU effed it up, there's no question there. yes, you did flood it...you're just too "proud" to admit you did something wrong with your first nitro RC.

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 5:00:29 PM   
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I've owned my Savage for about two years now and the only things that have broken have been suspension parts, shocks etc.
They were all caused by me running into things. Mines a beast.
Oh yeah I broke a one way bearing early on due to a flooded engine, my fault.

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 5:17:48 PM   
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*passes popcorn*

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 5:49:31 PM   
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when i first had mine i got to the second tank and the engine mashed mirrage sorted that im also on my second one way and my 3rd spur gear im gettin a 4.6 afta christmas joy

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 5:53:46 PM   
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Munch Munch. MMMM, popcorn

The only reason the carb came off was because you didn't have it tightened enough. To set the mesh, m-e-s-h, you take a piece of printer paper, rip off a strip, and fold it in half so that the paper is essentially 2 pieces thick. Stick it inbetween the spur and clutch bell, and press the engine with your fingers against the engine. While pressing the engine, tighten the engine mount screw, until tight. That's how I do it, and I have yet to strip my spur gear

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 6:14:43 PM   
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Every truck has its ups and downs, appart from radio box it sounds like user error to me.As for spur gear just get a steel combo from robinson racing but if your to hard on throttle well its your tranny thats gonna eat it...

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 6:43:43 PM   
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I've had my Savvy25 for over a year now, I've got a few gallons of Traxxas 33% through it now, SAME spur, SAME trans, SAME clutch bell, SAME slipper.

I did do some minor upgrades, but then again who hasn't (CVD's on all 4 corners and centers & aluminum clutch)

the only thing I've EVER had to replace is the roll bar, & suspension parts, but I guess that will happen when you repetedly jump your Savvy over a 10ft. storage shead .

I think that I will chalk your experiance up to user inexperiance and crapy set up.



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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 6:50:39 PM   
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I haven't had any real problems with my savage aside from a couple melted spur gears. Once I replaced the stock plastic clutch shoes with aluminum shoes, it hasn't melted the spur gear teeth. I melted a couple centers because I didn't have the slipper tight enough. The last one I melted was from hitting a puddle and getting something wet. All user error on my part. And aside from that I've had no trouble with it.

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 9:08:56 PM   
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*returns to seat with more popcorn and a soda for electro*


i have always set my spur "by feel". i have gotten it right every time. i have the magic touch

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RE: savage sucks big time - 12/11/2005 9:26:24 PM   
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