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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/25/2009 11:07 PM

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Just curious to how much AutoCad skills will transfer over to Solid Works for RC designing purposes. Luck would have it my second job in the Army involved a lot of drafting so I have had a good amount of experience with AutoCad.

If you are good at AutoCAD, you should learn Solidworks pretty easily. The the biggest difference is that programs like Solidworks, do not allow you to scribble. It forces you to build
what I call an organized ''graphic database''. I see a lot of ACAD drawings where the printout looks OK, but they are a pain to edit because it isn't organized with consistent layer, text and dim styles, or worst of all, there are a lot of people out there that still explode dimensions

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Solidworks, Inventor, Pro-E and all the other parametric modeling software will not let you do dumb stuff like that. I use AutoCAD professionally, and even for Architecture it is being replaced by a product called Revit that forces you to define everything. The advantage is that edits that took hours on a drawing board could be done in minutes in AutoCAD (or hours if the guy who drew it in the first place didn't know what he was doing) Editing is even faster in Solidworks.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/25/2009 11:35 PM

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Hi Airborne,

I'm, fairly adept at AutoCAD and have been trying to learn SolidWorks. IMHO, there isn't much carry-over. The thought process is completely different. I'd still recommend a course of some kind though if only to help you get started. I still use AutoCAD a lot (I'm an old lead-spinner, so I'm used to interpreting 2D drawings in my head) but SolidWorks can do so much more.

There are places for both, but there isn't much carry-over from one to the other, in my opinion.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/26/2009 5:55 AM

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Thanks for the honest opinions! My second job in the Army was surveying, drafting, materials testing - more or less civil engineering. Yes I agree having also worked as a General Contractor in construction - and I feel that AutoCad has more a place for the two dimensional world. For training purposes (I have not done much of it on my own) we have rendered 3d objects in AutoCad. Most of what we use it for is drawing blue prints or along with TerraModel.

You never appreciate good, or bad, drawings until you do them yourself! The gripes I hear I also get from friends that work in machine shops. Sometimes they get drawings with layers setup poorly. The fun part of building in construction is figuring out what to do when you realize there was no way the two dimensional plans could have accounted for real world issues.

I guess its time to find some sort of crash course! I still have a good amount of my GI bill to use up and plenty of tuition assistance. Thanks!

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/26/2009 1:53 PM

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I've been looking for a course at my local Community College but haven't found one listed yet. They tell me that there are courses on line, but I haven't found one.

I have to admit that I taught myself AutoCAD out of a book, so no reason why I couldn't do that with SolidWorks, but I'd still rather have a live teacher for the interaction.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/26/2009 2:02 PM

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I've been looking for a course at my local Community College but haven't found one listed yet. They tell me that there are courses on line, but I haven't found one.

I have to admit that I taught myself AutoCAD out of a book, so no reason why I couldn't do that with SolidWorks, but I'd still rather have a live teacher for the interaction.

Bob

Solidworks has one of the best tutorial modules I have ever seen. If I had to learn either AutoCAD or Solidworks entirely from the tutorials that come packaged with them, Solidworks would be much easier. Parametric Modeling (Solidworks) is quite different from CAD drafting (ACAD). but if someone has a good grasp of geometry as it applies to CAD, PM shouldn't be too difficult.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/26/2009 2:53 PM

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Solidworks is not often taught at any Community College as it is not used in the industry all that often. The trade schools tend to go with what ever they get cheap (or no cost to them) and of what they get few complaints on (Why not a course on CheapCad V-1.5 for that is what everyone is using now).

If you are going to learn how to use something other than an Autodesk product, as found in some trade school environment, then tell everyone where that location is at. For it must be rare. There is a forum at web site called AUTOCAD TUTOR for folks using SolidWorks, but not a lot of hits upon it. Many-many by users with five or less on Autodesk products in comparison. An explaination of this too there.

Thisnk FLAT too, for that is what paper is intended to be.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 7/26/2009 4:30 PM

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Solidworks is not often taught at any Community College

These are the two Community Colleges closest to me. Most CC's in California that have drafting programs teach Solidworks.

http://www.palomar.edu/catalog/2009/Sect%207/drafting.pdf (DT131)

http://www.miracosta.cc.ca.us/OfficeOfThePresident/PIO/Publications/catalog.pdf (page 169 DRAF 203, and 204 are taught in Solidworks)

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as it is not used in the industry all that often.

AutoCAD has all but been replaced by Solidworks, Pro-E, and Catia in the manufacturing and aerospace industries. AutoCAD's market has shifted to where it now dominates in the Architecture, Building industry, and Civil engineering.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 8/24/2009 11:16 PM

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I thought you guys might want to take a look at this...

http://mkt.alibre.com/l/1004/2009-08-04/EI16A

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 8/25/2009 7:00 PM

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I thought you guys might want to take a look at this...

http://mkt.alibre.com/l/1004/2009-08-04/EI16A

Sorry, but if the site requires me to enter personal info (that will be likely used by a high pressure sales person) before reviewing the features, I am not interested.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 9/14/2009 5:33 PM

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Hey guys this is my first post and have not read through the thread but I was just wondering if any one was using Google Sketch up?

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 9/14/2009 8:34 PM

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I just started evaluating the freeware version. It looks pretty good for what it is meant for; building models to import to Google Earth. For R/C stuff, it doesn't look like a threat to AutoCAD and Solidworks. I like the way it imports DXF/DWG, layers and all. I have only spent about an hour on it so far.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 10/11/2009 9:13 PM

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How to make trim tabs in for your laser cut files.

I'll try to do this in one post if I can.

For a quicker way to add trim tabs to your balsa or ply laser cutting files try this (for
autocad only);

In your autocad cut file draw or import all your parts.

Once you have all your parts setup enter the mline command, type "S: for scale, set the

scale width to 5/64 or 1/16 or whatever width you want for the tab width. Next click off the

balsa template and draw multilines over your parts where you want tabs.

To make the tabs
enter the "Trim" command and press the enter key right away.
Now with your pointer click on your part line between the multilines you created earlier. In

this mode you just keep clicking between the mlines, on the part, where you want the tabs

until done. Press esc to cancel the mode.

Delete the multilines you created earlier.

Done.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 10/28/2009 10:30 PM

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Dreadnaut,
Does your work use solidworks? Is there a trial copy to download? I have been using Acad 2000 to 2009 (self taught). I have done more 3d in autocad that I can think of, So I was woundering about giving solidwrks a try.

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RE: Tips And Tricks for CAD Programs. - 10/28/2009 11:07 PM

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I work in architecture, so no, I do not use Solidworks at work

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