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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/15/2005 7:12:52 PM   
bhole74



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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/15/2005 7:20:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I happen to like Monokote. Both have slightly different application methods. Best bet is find someone whose planes you admire to teach you how to apply the stuff. It's more of an art. Take your time and either will work.
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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/15/2005 8:23:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bhole74

If you can't find it here, chances are you won't find it.http://www.horizonhobby.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=Ultracote&OverallCatID=&CatID=&BrandID=HAN&SearchType=Standard&SortBy=CatDESC&SortDirection=ASC&Page=1



Hey, thanks. I looked on Horizons web site but couldn't find it the first time. I probably wasn't searching correctly.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/15/2005 9:26:50 PM   
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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/15/2005 10:23:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bhole74

Why you have to do an extensive search for it is beyond me. I couldn't find it myself because I typed in Ultracoat instead of Ultracote, stupid me!

Horizon's sight is a nightmare. I've gone through the same things and don't visit it much any more.

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I happen to like Monokote. Both have slightly different application methods. Best bet is find someone whose planes you admire to teach you how to apply the stuff. It's more of an art. Take your time and either will work.
John


THat's the best advice I've read on this subject.


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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/16/2005 3:32:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bhole74

Why you have to do an extensive search for it is beyond me. I couldn't find it myself because I typed in Ultracoat instead of Ultracote, stupid me!

Horizon's sight is a nightmare. I've gone through the same things and don't visit it much any more.

John



Excactly. I find their site to be not very user friendly and go to Tower instead. Plus, it's kind of boring.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/16/2005 3:43:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: woops


What temp do you use? With or without a sock?


To tell you the truth, I have no idea.

I just set the dial on my iron to one position for tacking, The numbers are so small I never bother to read them, and then I usually use a heat gun for shrinking.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/17/2005 3:51:53 AM   
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there is more MK in a 6 ft. roll, another + for MK.
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I just bought two rolls of Ultracote and it came in 8 foot rolls.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/17/2005 7:01:31 AM   
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I just bought two rolls of Ultracote and it came in 8 foot rolls.


Yep, I can confirm this. You even get more Ultacote for less money. Looks like Ultracote in leading the way.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/17/2005 11:55:10 AM   
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There really isn't a right answer. It's not a contest. Both have their supporters, both work well. It's what your local hobby shop has in stock. Personally fiberglass and paint beats both hands down for durablity and gloss. Then there are the fabrics. There are many different methods of covering a ship even using brown paper and glue!
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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/17/2005 3:28:15 PM   
bhole74



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Just measured a 2M roll of UC, 6' 6-1/2" x 23" 5/8". MK: 26" x 72"
That comes up to
UC 1852 sq. in.
MK1872 sq. in.

Edit for measurements


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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/17/2005 9:56:42 PM   
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Status: online 		Horizon carries ultracote. I just got 3 rolls of yellow.
I didn't like ultracote when it first came out. This is the first time in 10 years that I have tried it.
I like it. I like the old monokote too. Haven't tried the new stuff.
I'm probably going to stick with ultracote. This stuff is really nice for going around curves.
I am using the trim iron to work a strip of covering into the hinge gaps before doing the main covering of the elevator, rudder and ailerons. Just extend the control surface to the max and iron the covering in.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 12/20/2005 12:17:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both!!! Ultracote has the nice checker patterns and such. Monokote the nice shine.

As far as adhesion goes, I think they both stink. My Ultracote covered plane sags worse than any Monokote one I've covered. So on my latest project, I'm taking "Rolling Circle"s suggestion of using Sig Stix It or Coverite for Film. the LHS had the Coverite so that is what I used. Man what a difference! I'll NEVER cover a plane without using this stuff again.
This plane has both Ultra and Mono on it.

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RE: Monocote or ultracote?? - 5/15/2008 5:13:20 PM   
oldflyer123


 

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Status: offline 		I have used both extensively. I have been using monkote since the 1970's and ultracote (oracover) since it came out from goldberg in 1980's.
Monokote has more colors and distributers plus more trim sheets and paints to go with it.
Ultacote is easier to use. I primarily use it for the wrinkle problem. Monokote is horrible for wrinkles and gas bubbles (I use a paper tiger to get rid of the bubbles). I have to reshrink my monokote planes continually.
My ultacote planes I touch up a few wrinkles in the spring and it is good for the whole season.
The only time I use monokote now is because I need a color that I really want, which is about half the time.
Oh, and Utracote is like magic around curves. And if you want to strip a plane, and I do because I keep my planes a long time and recover them after a few years, the Ultracote comes off much better than the Monokote.

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