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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 5:34:00 PM   
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So what was the story w/ the $15,000, anyway? THat's like $1 per member....you could attract a lot of new flyers w/ that kind of cash!!! And it sounded like that was only part of the spending for one event!

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 5:37:02 PM   
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Oh yeah...and what about the member age/future membership predictions....I've asked that and no-one's touched it! It may be a matter of survival to recruit new members, everyone stops flying one day! I'd be very curious to see some stats on member age if anyone would share...

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 5:49:40 PM   
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I'm an old timer and I don't give a razz azzz what you call me, you can call me whatever you want as long it's not late for dinner.

RC nerd has some good ideas for moving maac forward but will never work, maac is about the past, staying in the past and reliving the past ( yeah sonny, I was the salt mine champ in 1955 and my model stayed up for a whole 15.45 seconds), so it's hurts some feelings, get real, we have landed on the moon you know and they used a rocket not rubber ,boys and girls can we say rocket....
R O C K E T

Who will be the next maac prez after Carl, who on the current board has big aperations to be the next prez and is moving in that direction currently.

If I were a betting man, I would have to put my money on .. (now that is scary)

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 5:55:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kenair

I'm an old timer and I don't give a razz azzz what you call me, you can call me whatever you want as long it's not late for dinner.

RC nerd has some good ideas for moving maac forward but will never work, maac is about the past, staying in the past and reliving the past ( yeah sonny, I was the salt mine champ in 1955 and my model stayed up for a whole 15.45 seconds), so it's hurts some feelings, get real, we have landed on the moon you know and they used a rocket not rubber ,boys and girls can we say rocket....
R O C K E T

Who will be the next maac prez after Carl, who on the current board has big aperations to be the next prez and is moving in that direction currently.

If I were a betting man, I would have to put my money on .. (now that is scary)



LOL!!!!

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 6:06:49 PM   
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The reality of MAAC is that apathy is the leading cause of all teh problems.
R/C Nerd does have some good ideas, and clearly has a head for marketing and promotions. There are two committees that coudl prpbably benifit from his ideas, the Public Relations Committee and teh beginners committee. BOTH committees appear inactive (I haven't seen a PR report for the mag since the current chair took over) and the chair ofteh beginner committee is ALWAYS lamenting the lack of valuable input.

As with any body that is governed by a committee ... change takes forever ... but it can be MUCH easier to impliment on the committee level.


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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 6:08:59 PM   
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I hear Martin will soon ban speeding anyway so it's a moot point.


I'd much rather see a speeding registry (only half joking)


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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 7:02:45 PM   
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The reality of MAAC is that apathy is the leading cause of all teh problems.
R/C Nerd does have some good ideas, and clearly has a head for marketing and promotions. There are two committees that coudl prpbably benifit from his ideas, the Public Relations Committee and teh beginners committee. BOTH committees appear inactive (I haven't seen a PR report for the mag since the current chair took over) and the chair ofteh beginner committee is ALWAYS lamenting the lack of valuable input.

As with any body that is governed by a committee ... change takes forever ... but it can be MUCH easier to impliment on the committee level.


Thanks....I think you've hit the nail on the head! Just musing here, but maybe MAAC could be "pumped up" by industry...they have a vested interest in the future of our hobby! I'm thinking of an organization run like a business rather than a club, where there is a clear vision of where it is going, how they'll get there, etc...

If eveyone is wondering why I just complain/suggest, and why I'm not DOING anything about it, well for one I can't commit year round as my business is very seasonal. As well I contribute by always trying to encourage anyone who expresses an interest in RC flight or cars or boats. I have a GWS slostik just for training! I've tougt 5 or 6 people to fly now, and a couple have actually remained in the hobby. This is great ROI for the guy who tought me!! I have explained MAAC to them but all felt that it was too great a commitment. No suprise since I know lots of guys who are hardcore car, boat plane guys with thousands into it who think MAAC is "a waste of money." (I don't agree BTW, I'm a member). It's not the actuasl cost that scares them though, it's the commitment, IMO. Even if they don't find time to fly for a few months, that membership is still ticking away. I know it's dumb, but these same guys would pay $25/day to fly at a cool site without blinking! It's all about optics to today's consumer...look at the prevalence of "pay as you go" cell phones...4 times the price but with no commitment...and they're flying off the shelves!!

OPEN STATEMENT TO MAAC PR/BEGINNERS COMMITTEES: While I don't have the ability to commit to a permanent position I hereby offer any services which would help...I am an entrepreneur with a background in Marketing and my wife is a bcomm with a background in advertising, doing catalouges and promotions for one of Canada's largest retasilers before she quit to stay home with our son. (I'm volunteering her services as well! ) our fortes are understanding customers and seperating them from their money, all the while making them feel good about the transaction...

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 7:21:45 PM   
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Best contact them directly ...

Public Relations
Henry Zwolak - hzwolak@sympoatico.ca

Beginner
Terry Lyttle
KPA@IMG.net



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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 7:30:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: r/cnerd


quote:

ORIGINAL: kenair

I'm an old timer and I don't give a razz azzz what you call me, you can call me whatever you want as long it's not late for dinner.

RC nerd has some good ideas for moving maac forward but will never work, maac is about the past, staying in the past and reliving the past ( yeah sonny, I was the salt mine champ in 1955 and my model stayed up for a whole 15.45 seconds), so it's hurts some feelings, get real, we have landed on the moon you know and they used a rocket not rubber ,boys and girls can we say rocket....
R O C K E T

Who will be the next maac prez after Carl, who on the current board has big aperations to be the next prez and is moving in that direction currently.

If I were a betting man, I would have to put my money on .. (now that is scary)



LOL!!!!



r/cnerd, calling someone an Old Timer is both rude & insulting, all in one lump. It is a pejorative term implying that the subject person is not only old, but no longer of use, or importance, and not really connected to to the main stream of life. You re-inforce that negative connotation by suggesting that the "Old Timers" won't be interested in teaching lots of new commers. I'm not even sure what you imply by that -- Old Timers don't care? or Old Timers can't handle it? or Old Timers don't want to teach kids?

You furthrer re-inforce that negative connotation by suggesting that somehow I'm an exception because I am involved (presumably unlike the rest of the Old Timers), thereby negatively branding every modeller that meets your undefined criteria for being an Old Timer. You are splattering away with a broad & mucky brush & it isn't appreciated, either for the gratuitously insulting references to age, or for the innaccurate picture that you are attempting to paint. The instructors in my club, for example, vary in age from the mid-fourties to the mid-seventies. All are interested, connected, skillfull, & very generous with their time & money. You insulted all of them & I am mighty pissed.

I have no problems with constructive suggestions -- but I strongly object to the implication that MAAC & the rest of the "older" modellers are somehow mired in the past. Some of your ideas may indeed merit exploration -- again, in some cases -- but they aren't necessarily new. For example, there has never been any prohibition against individuals starting a model flight school & charging a fee for lessons. However, the free lessons from local MAAC clubs sure make for tough competition. I suggest that you go for it yourself.

BTW, Ken is a superb modeller & pilot who is also an interesting an entertaining guy -- one who has a huge anti-MAAC chip on his shoulder, & he drags his coat in front of the hounds at every opportunity. Be wary of swallowing the bait that he throws out, & be wary of the veracity of the bait. He has as much fun with this as he can -- so far you seem to be well & truly hooked.

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 7:56:37 PM   
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Wow talk about sensitive.....

I called no-one anything, since I referred to no specific individual.

To all forum readers: please accept my sincere apologies for use of the non-pc (apparently) term "old-timer". When reading my posts please substitute the term "respected elder modeler" for "old timer". If this pisses you off you can also substitute "age challenged individual" if it suits you.

To the old timers: (sorry) no offense intended, I have the utmost respect for everyone who has contributed to our hobby. I truly meant no disrespect.

I still feel that an old timer may have more important things to do than teach a bunch of annoying kids to fly.

Is it insulting to call an old timer airplane an 'old timer'?

If you have an old timer for eggs in your kithcen is that also offensive?

britbrat: your blood pressure is not appreciating you reading my posts...perhaps you should block me...

BTW 40's to 70's = old timer....not an insult, a fact...if you don't believe me ask tomorrow's modeler!!!!!

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 9:05:20 PM   
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I keep asking about member age stats and getting nothing...does anyone have this info? I'm starting to think the MAAC insiders are afraid to share these stats cuz it'll put fuel into the fire of my suggestions...

I'm sorry if this is an offensive way to ask the question but I've asked it before and gotten no replies so I'll try to be simple and concise:

Is MAAC membership going to die out as it's members get older? Are enough new, young members being added each year to ensure continued increased membership? Is there a large percentage of members who could be expected to retire from flying soon?

WHERE ARE WE HEADED MEMBERSHIP-WISE???

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 9:52:10 PM   
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Why would MAAC release confidential information to you, particularly on a public forum?

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RE: Ex-Prez sighting - 12/19/2005 10:03:58 PM   
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I hear Martin will soon ban speeding anyway so it's a moot point.


I'd much rather see a speeding registry (only half joking)



You're right, -- a registry of slow speed drivers is needed You know the ones who plug the outside lane on multi-lane highways , & the ones who dawdle along on the open road, at or below the limit, then accelerate to 30 kph over the limit on the passing lanes , --- and those who bumble blithely along with 30 vehicles in a train behind them, but haven't got the brains to pull over and let traffic by, --- and those who pull out in front of you when you are the only car in sight, then accelerate at the speed of a sundial -- & especially those self-righteous @#$%^&*#$ who think that they are doing the world a service by driving 20 klicks below the limit to keep us safe from speeders .

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