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RE: FAI - 1/4/2006 9:18:46 PM

Jim_McIntyre

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Funny how the expression “Toy Airplane” seems to evoke such sensitive emotions in modelers

...lol......yep, and a good way to weed out those who take things too serious.

Or perhaps a good way to weed out those who don't take things serious enough.

Referring to model aircraft as toys can be a form of disinformation leading to seriously unsafe situations.

The "toy" politics is all very entertaining (to some) but, whenever this topic rears it's head, I'm reminded of the safety issues around topics like park flying. We do little to educate the public about the distinction between air hogs and a hacker equipped fibreglass speed demon. Inf fact, it's attitudes like those exhibited here that do more to obfuscate the difference.

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RE: FAI - 1/4/2006 9:58:21 PM

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Chicken/egg situation, and/or is it a Catch-22, I never know is it's the same or not. lol Speaking of advertising investment, I hear that a full page color ad in any modeling magazine runs around $3000 per page, per month. How many full page color ads do you see in related magazines year in and year out, at least on this side of the border? I wonder how many people see those ads? Not to mention the smaller ads.

I see everybody and his brother selling anything other than modeling products advertising on TV, but a relatively modeling giant like Hobbico can't find the bucks to place even local ads somewhere, anywhere. A local hobby shop 30 miles east of me, (Bomber's Hobby) has only been open a couple of years but found the pennies to advertise on 3 different TV stations and get this, it didn't cost all that much. Oh no, you don't have to go on national TV, but even locally, you could reach 50 - 100,000 people. BTW, his business is indeed booming and his shop is out in the boonies. Funny thing, people are still trying to convince him that he can't make where he is and that it much too expensive and he's wasting his money advertising on TV.

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It's a mystery to me why MAAC, AMA and the world wide MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR aeromodeling industry can't seem to put their financial heads together and develop a global or at least individual promotion program like any other other "sport"? Just think of it, clubs on both sides of the border and possibly world wide, would triple their numbers, dues would decrease, so on and so on.

CCR

Because it involves convincing private industry that their "investment" would be worth the bucks.................... and many, particularly us North of the border are becoming accustomed to allowing the "government" (ie: toy airplane government = MAAC) look after things. One thing is for certain, allow "government" with multiple levels of decision making and a bunch of SIGs scrapping for what's in the trough..........and the end result will be a collective level of ............ah.........well..............what we have now.

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Funny how the expression “Toy Airplane” seems to evoke such sensitive emotions in modelers

...lol......yep, and a good way to weed out those who take things too serious.

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 2:43:51 AM

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Hi…..
Toy airplanes …. Don’t think so! If it were so, the military dudes wouldn’t be toying with them. I talked to some Canadian “Military Intelligence” (Oxymoron)dudes at the Halifax air show this summer and they were toying with a OS powered Telemaster all decked out with cameras and things. I wasn’t about to tell those chaps they was playing with toys cause they had guns and stuff.
Now if you check out those US military RC dudes they are decidedly up scale with their toys,,, Rockets and such no Telemaster here …They call it Predator

A model airplane ceases being a toy when it leaves the earth and can fly. bert

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
and danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds...and done a hundred things."

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 3:39:40 AM

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........ jeep restoration project fall into that catagory..............

NOW you have simply gone to far !!!!!!!

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 4:21:36 AM

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Now if you check out those US military RC dudes they are decidedly up scale with their toys,,, Rockets and such no Telemaster here …They call it Predator

Agreed, those are not toys.......................they are called, "tools".

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 2:36:43 PM

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You guys should realize that this discussion is a brightly shining example of why women think men are idiots.

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 4:44:24 PM

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You guys should realize that this discussion is a brightly shining example of why women think men are idiots.

.........and your point?

Are we to assume then that you are an accredited women's spokesperson?

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 5:31:31 PM

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You guys should realize that this discussion is a brightly shining example of why women think men are idiots

Well I think that is a step in the right direction for them. Women have always given me the impression that they do not actually THINK at all!

Ed S

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 5:42:55 PM

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Are we to assume then that you are an accredited women's spokesperson?

Certainly, the Dragon makes up my mind & I tell the rest of you what she --- I think about important issues like toys.

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 5:44:03 PM

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You guys should realize that this discussion is a brightly shining example of why women think men are idiots

Well I think that is a step in the right direction for them. Women have always given me the impression that they do not actually THINK at all!

Ed S

Was there a Mrs Ed?

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 9:50:42 PM

Donovan Dow

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Jigley3Hi….. T..... I talked to some Canadian “Military Intelligence” (Oxymoron)dudes at the Halifax air show this summer .......

I found your comments out of order and inappropriate for starters.
You don't know me and I don't know you and I sure as hell don't want to know you.

take care
don dow

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 9:54:38 PM

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John McCrae wrote In Flanders Fields while serving in some of
the bloodiest fighting in the First World War. It became so popular, he was
constantly asked for a handwritten copy, like the one at right.

In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 10:22:49 PM

Ed Smith

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Was there a Mrs Ed?

There still is. My wife became "Mrs Ed" 41 years ago. This proves my point. She is obviously not thinking about what she did!

Ed S

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RE: FAI - 1/6/2006 10:39:15 PM

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Ah… the thrill to witness the genesis of a new FAI class – FIM* Back-pedalling.

When will the team trials be held Ed? There’s certainly plenty of Canadian candidates for World Champion of this category.

Dennis

*FIM – Foot In mouth

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