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g_boxwood -> Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:42:12 AM)

Dear gentlemen,

my first posts in here...

I wanted to share my R/C Skydiving experience by introducing my first and only jumper by rcskydiving.com.

DISCLAIMER
First let me say that I'm not affiliated with them anyhow... I'm just sharing this as a buying reference for future R/C sd enthusiasts. Jumpers cost quite a bit and I think it could be useful to know -exactly- what you're buying. That's because I did it almost blindfold... no regret BTW.

Onto the jumper.

The BEGINNER combo comes with everything you need except radio equipment. Here's what you get:
- already assembled jumper w/ rip-stop nylon suit (up to 3 different colors)
- beginner 'chute (w/ non-functional slider) already rigged to the jumper
- hardware for radio installation (basswood servo mounting rails, music wire and arm pushrods with clevises)
- illustrated color manual





g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:44:06 AM)

Here come the details...

A view showing the backpack:



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:47:46 AM)

The non-functional slider and the clean rigging; the jumper head is pretty cool as well:



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:50:33 AM)

Steering line attachment:



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:51:50 AM)

Suit removed to reveal chest:



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:54:37 AM)

Chest opened; the arm pushrods come already installed and include all the necessary hardware; you just provide the servos. Pleas note the basswood sticks and music wire are packaged inside the chest.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 8:56:31 AM)

Back view showing arm cinematics.

What's the jumper made of? It seems a lower density resin or something similar.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (12/27/2005 9:00:29 AM)

One last fine touch I suggest is their aluminum drop-box: at $20.00 they're pretty cheap and include everything but the servo. They come with the servo bracket and pushrod already installed, instructions and some spare zip-ties.

HTH, I'm over for the moment. I'll be away right now. Next will be radio installation and setup.



Huntster -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (1/5/2006 4:41:09 PM)

I would absolutely agree with everything above. I just bought the Elite Jumper with the added detail on the Suit and the working slider on the risers. The quality of the Jumper, Chute, Drop box and I even went for the carrying bag and it fits the bill to a T. The bag is an Eddie Bower bag with a good amount of additional pockets and high quality zippers. I am currently on deployment and I can't drop my guy yet. BUT I have him and mail takes about 2 weeks to get here and I got my jumper in about a months time, from ordering online to recieving it here on board.



edge_pilot -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (2/1/2006 8:03:15 PM)

Check out the review in the April issue of Fly RC Magazine.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/10/2006 3:26:52 PM)

Hi everyone!

Read about your dirty-dive flyinghuntster... hope you get it together again soon!

Now to some questions. Here it is my final radio setup. I followed instructions and installed:

2 HS-77 + heavy duty arms (borrowed from HS-645MGs)
1 HS-81
1 4.8V, 1100 mAh battery back
1 normal-range receiver that fits
1 Hitec micro switch harness

First 2 pictures show everything above.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/10/2006 3:38:08 PM)

Question #1

Arms fully up: elbows should contact the body (upper travel end), this way 'chute opening shock won't -pull- on servos possibly damaging them. I'm I correct? First pic on the left.

Question #2

Arms fully down: travel must be reduced so that servo arms won't interfere if both jumper arms are pulled down simultaneously. Referring to 2nd picture from the left, right servo arm should not travel more than the green line.

Last picture shows real question; once servo travel is adjusted so servo arms don't interfere, jumper arms lower that much: is it enough? Should I shorten the clevis some more (yellow circle)?

Question #3

How much should the release pin stick out of the body (red circle)?

Thanks for your help!




Porsche968 -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/10/2006 7:14:18 PM)

What do you do with this throw it out of an airplane or just a high building. I don't really understand.



edge_pilot -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/10/2006 9:42:57 PM)

To anser your questions.

arms fully up should contact the main body.

You have plenty of movement in the arms, you are right ,you don't want the servos to hit each other. this much arm mpovement will make him spin very fast one way or the other on descent.

The release pin should stick out of the body the maximum amount you can get and still have it retract just below the surface of the main body. How far it sticks out isn't that critical, you just want it to fully retract.

And to answer Porsche968 question, we drop them from a radio controlled plane.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/11/2006 7:51:36 AM)

Perfect, thanx!



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/11/2006 4:10:32 PM)

One more thing! I'm getting crazy trying to pack the chute correctly. Everything goes smooth 'till I try to put it in the pack: it then begins to -grow bigger- as I try to close the flaps over it... it keeps getting bigger and bigger with every movement I make... till it won't fit any more... aaaaahhhhhhh I hate this part of the process!!! Everything else is fine...



edge_pilot -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/13/2006 5:38:46 PM)

Patients g_boxwood. It helps the first few times to have a friend for an extra hand. one person folds the top flap down and the other folds the bottom flap up. This is only like this until the chute looses some of the slipperyness. The more it is packed the simplier it will get. This short term inconvinience has many more benefits in the long run, percentage of chute opening, quality of flight due to the high quality "slippery" parachute material, and many more. I assure you it is all worth it.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/14/2006 9:14:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: edge_pilot

Patients g_boxwood. It helps the first few times to have a friend for an extra hand. one person folds the top flap down and the other folds the bottom flap up.

Maybe a woman touch is all that is needed!

Yes the nylon is very slippery.

Thanx.



g_boxwood -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/15/2006 4:26:14 PM)

Getting closer...

LAST thing. First pic on the left refers to packing manual step that says:

Rotate the whole assembly down into the pack area. The slider and part of the chute should be in the chute pack

OK. Don't worry about how bad it looks, I packed it fast to get to the point: what's next??? Manual continues:

Now bend the chute assembly in half, bending it back over itself into the chute pack. [...]

So, does it have to be bent once more??? I get a very bad feeling everytime I try to do so since the package seems not to -accept- any further bending! The stitching worries me, it gets really tight!

Or is it ok if I pack it the way it is in the picture? This is a crucial point for me at the moment, the last one. Please advise and clear it to me.

First results can be seen in the other pics: it seems the lower flap can't hold the chute up, the release string pushes the bent package down.

BTW, everything I referred to as "It doesn't work", "can't" and things like that depends on my skill only, chute and jumper are top-notch and everything works nice... once you know how to do it!



edge_pilot -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/15/2006 9:55:03 PM)

I have downloaded the 2 pictures I use in the manual. The first is where i say to "Rotate the whole assembly down into the pack area. The slider and part of the chute should be in the chute pack." If you notice to the reason I said "Rotate" means to pivot the chute on the anchor points of the shoulder harness and rotate it from above his head to under his head in the chute pack. It should look exactlly like the picture, notice yours doesn't. Once you get this far fold just the chute part back upwards to lay it on top of the harness lines that are laying in the chute pack. this is shown in the second picture. The part of the chute you see in the first picture is actually laying against the chute pack plywood when you are done. I hope this clears things up with the confusion. I will be releasing a DVD on chute packing in the VERY short future for live video of how to do the whole process.



Huntster -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (5/22/2006 7:02:31 PM)

It is difficult at first. The spend one day and just practice packing the chute over and over and it will get easier.



victhadork -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (6/11/2006 3:29:32 AM)

do yall have any videos i wanna see 1



gamedog53 -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (6/11/2006 6:30:57 PM)

I would be interested in seeing a video as well. Maybe a new area to explore. Wife's gonna love this one.

Really honey I've always had that one...



wjones -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (6/12/2006 3:42:35 AM)

Go www.rcdropzone.com for Video

Thx, wil



N12932 -> RE: rcskydiving.com Beginner Jumper (6/29/2006 3:00:43 PM)

Has anyone built a plane to drop these yet or are you droping them from trainers?



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