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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 5:01:08 AM   
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Jay,

Rereading my post I stated that I didn't think it was necessary to dismantle the heli and put it back together piece by piece. Hopefully I didn't overstep my welcome on advice there. If that is part of the training program I should butt out.

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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 10:37:08 AM   
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Hi guys,

I was thinking why shouldn't I try to auto my T450SE, I know it doesn't auto as well as a T600 but as it's so much lighter there's less chance to break something if the landing is hard.
What do you guys think?

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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 11:34:52 AM   
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I like to auto once in a while, Just make sure you into the wind and come down way faster than a powered landing. I feel like I'm around -2 or -3 degrees in relation to my stick. At about 5-6 feet pull up and park it. Takes a few tries to get used to the desending speed. I have broken a couple sets of landing gears but I was doing it on asphalt. I been doing it on grass much more forgiving if you mess up.

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RE: Officia... - 4/7/2008 2:10:03 PM   
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I stay away from auto'ing my 450. I have enough stuff to learn as it is without doing something that will most likely result in something breaking. I have auto'd it but it was out of necessity.

Finless Bob autos his perfect every signle time though.

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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 5:15:01 PM   
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Helismith,

I just got to drain a couple packs and then I was busy workin on house stuff. I don't usually read the posts on the weekend so I didn't see your post about when you would be at the field till Monday morning. sorry to hear about your crash. I do want to get there when your flying soon.

JD

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RE: Officia... - 4/7/2008 8:31:56 PM   
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I will most likely be there today after work about 5pm. Having a rough day today but if I can shake that off I will be burning through my packs.

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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 9:10:18 PM   
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Hey boom benders,
Had a nice picnic lunch yesterday. Donica knew of a place here that takes orders for picnic lunches, packs them in a basket for you and all you have to do is pick it up. It's amazing what they can get into those little baskets. After we finished the delicious baked chicken, "tater" salad, buttered hominy and whole grain bread we raised a glass of wine and toasted you all.

I'm still in Okie City. There's a lot of rowdy weather between here and Nebraska so I guess I'm stranded. Gosh, how terrible is that. Stranded in a nice hotel with a dark haired cajun beauty when I could be at home alone in Nebraska. Oh woe is me . I could likely get home ok by flying North along the Kansas/Missiouri border to Kansas City, fuel up there and cut Northwest up into Nebraska but the weather system is moving Northeast through that area and I could end up right in the middle of some heavy rain. Going west out of here to the Kansas/Colorado border and then North would put me right in the middle of freezing rain and snow. I could fly above it all but descending to land could be real hairy. I would have to drop down through about 9000 feet of heavy clouds and precip. It's not worth it as I'm not in any rush. Might as well sit it out here. It's cloudy here but in the mid 60's. Lots better than the snow and 40's in Nebraska. Donica is at work till 5 PM and we are gonna go out for a nice dinner later. I guess I can tolerate being stranded.

Helismith-No worries. You didn't step out of line there. Donica doesn't yet know what everything I say about the helis means. I did say to her we would take it apart, but I didn't mean a complete dissassembly. I meant only the necessary things like you mentioned. She was rather relieved when I explained myself better to her. She said she had visualized all these little tiny parts spread out on the bench and it kinda scared her. Yeah-she'll get her "lessons" after the crashes. We're gonna take this build slow and let her really get to know each system and how they all link up and work together. She has an analytical mind and will grasp the concepts real well. I have enjoyed watching her "fiddle" with my helis. She pushes and pulls on things and figures out what happens (as she says it) "when ya push this thingy it makes this other little thingy move and when that thingy moves that other little thingy over here moves thisaway and that's what makes this bigger thingy tilt so it pushes air down and the heli up---Right?" Yep-she's a born technician and I kinda like her generic version of the terminology.

Where can I get some of the Wildman dampners? I'd like to try those.

It's good to know how to auto rotate your heli, but, plan on some broken parts learning it. The sim is a good place to practice until you can do it every time. It's meant to be an emergency landing technique and to only save you from a catastrophic crash not a sure thing save. It will be different on each heli and also different under the present flying conditions. Kinda like anti lock brakes on your car. No guarantee it wil work 100% but is better than nothing. In the world of real helis you aren't allowed by the FAA to do it unless you are with a certified instructor and never on public airport land. When I trained for it we had to be in my own helicopter and did it out in some open land next to my mothers place. He allowed me to do it three times so he could sign me off on it and then left me with stern instructions to never do it just for fun. Only to use it to save my life. Doing it scared me enough to obey those orders.

Gotta go. I want to make tonights dinner something different and special so I need to get on the phone and make a reservation and some plans.

May your rotors run true, your gyros know where you are and your pitch be perfect.

p. Eth.- Aye offen don see da tipos befour i post too. It's aggervaten innit it/? Ah'm a purfict spellar as long as i get 3 trys.

< Message edited by flyachopper1 -- 4/7/2008 9:16:47 PM >


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RE: Official... - 4/7/2008 10:13:46 PM   
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Hey Jay,
I did a Google search of the dampers you were talking about. I think they have them at: rchover.com
Don't know if this is what you are after. Get on the site, scroll down to the search box on the left and type in your request. If this isn't what you are after, let me know and I will keep searching.

Slingblade

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RE: Officia... - 4/7/2008 10:25:38 PM   
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Helismith,

I'm going to the Bruce Springsteen concert tonight in Anaheim, and booked the next two nights after that with other junk. Its always something. have fun. Thursday looks good for me.

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RE: Official... - 4/8/2008 3:00:42 AM   
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Hey pilots,
Looks like I'm gonna be in Okie City for awhile. There's a huge storm system moving across the middle of the country. The weather here is turning nasty. Wild thunder storms, hail, high winds and tornado warnings. Tomorrow looks a little better here but not along the area I would have to fly over to get home. I could be here up until Friday the way it looks. It's possible I could fly over to Amarillo, North to Pueblo and on to Denver by staying above the weather. I would have to stay over a night in Denver and then follow I-80 along the South Platte River Valley into Nebraska all the way to North Platte. I would likely still have to descend through some uncertain conditions to land. Whew-not nearly as simple as the trip down here. I'll just have to play it by ear. Ain't nothin' important enough to try if Mother Nature doesn't allow it. Donica is thrilled. She claims that she called her Mom and had her do a Creole hex to keep me here. I'm glad I rented hangar space here for the full scale. There's a lot of hail falling and I'm not comfortable letting her get thumped by that stuff. It's a tough machine, but I just don't like that.

1chibear-Thanks for the info. I'll look into those when I finally get home. I have checked with some of the other forums and there are a lot of good things said about those dampeners. On some of the older nitros there were no dampeners at all and I used a length of silicone fuel tubing on the shaft to stiffen and dampen. That worked surprisingly well. Those old beaters weren't designed to the close tolerances like todays birds though.

Well, we're gonna settle in for the night and watch a couple of pay-per-view movies. Donica says hi/bye.

See ya later.


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RE: Official... - 4/8/2008 3:02:17 AM   
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JD--Bruce Springsteen--I'm jealous!!!

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RE: Official... - 4/8/2008 3:10:14 PM   
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That sounds so cool Jay that picnic you guys had. I think I need to surprise my wife with a picnic. Hmm and leave the heli at home.. lol It also sounds cool to map out routes back home via helicopter. From the outside it seems you have a perfect existence. My life is so mundane same ol thing different day.

I am so excited to see if Donica is going to get into the hobby. It takes a lot of work and I know lots of people who have sold all their stuff and just given up so I won’t hold it against her if she doesn’t. I am counting the days to hear about her build and her accomplishments on the sim.

I got my wife to fly the sim last night for about 3 minutes! I wish she would do it I went and bought a cable to allow her to practice with a Walkera 4#1 controller on Real Flight 3.5 and she listened when I explained it all. Root for me too guys! Maybe.., just maybe.

Donica when it seems like you aren’t learning fast enough or you are getting very frustrated first remember that it took us all that long. Second remember you have a guy in Cali chanting “go Donica go, go Donica go!”.


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RE: Official T-rex 450 XL SE Thread - 4/8/2008 9:01:14 PM   
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Hey Guys, I'm fairly new and have a quick question, I bought 3 T-Rex 450's (2 -SE and 1 -XL) one SE whole and the other two well one is now complete (xl) the last SE will most likely be a parts bird. I bought an Align ESC and the guy at the LHS didn't have an Align motor but said the E-Flight Six (2000 kv) would do great in the heli. Said to put either a 13 or 15 tooth pinion on it and it would be great. I found the pinions (1/8 inch) since the shaft is bigger, but it seemed to really not match up to the 150 tooth gear that well and on the first start up right before it got off the ground it ate the main gear (I know it was better than in flight). I have other Heli's (a Blade CP Pro, and 2 - 400's) and the eflight motors in those seem good, Is it the shaft difference or did I just follow the wrong advice about the motor? Will this be good once I change the main gear or should I just bite the bullet and buy a smaller shaft motor?

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RE: Official T-rex 450 XL SE Thread - 4/9/2008 1:26:31 AM   
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