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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2008 8:03:35 AM   
dodgemcopter


 

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I think I'm becoming a "Heliaholic", just had to buy a couple more lol (#4 and HBK2). Anyways finally achieved good control with hover tail in and out, goin for forward and the freakin motor died. Get anothery just like the othery and....pfffft...down it come after 2 charges. May as well go the brushless (walkera part, unless better suggestions) so what size li-po is good, I did go back through most posts and looked online but just confused the sh*t out of myself. I gathered 11.(whatever it was)v but what the hell is 10c,12c etc. Does the 800,1100,1200 type numbers denote output for extra whammo or extra running time. Anyone using brushless had any probs? and as I only have one 800amh,hma,mha....lmnop li-po I figured some more can come in handy....until then I'll see if I can frazle the #4 lol. thanks

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2008 5:44:42 PM   
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dodgemcopter,

The battery stuff can be confusing, but it's not that tough to understand. For this size heli a three cell (11.1V) Lipo is what you want. Lipo batteries are made up of cells of 3.7V each. A two cell works great in the #4. The 800, 1100, 1200, etc. denotes the capacity in milliamp-hours (mAh). An 800mAh battery can supply 800mA for one hour, or 400mA for two hours, or 1600ma (1.6 Amps) for half an hour, etc. Capacity equates to flying time. The 10C, 12C, etc. denotes the whammo! You have to combine the "C" rating with the capacity to get the maximum amount of current the battery can supply. So an 800mAh 10C battery can supply a maximum of 10x800mA or 8000mA (8 Amps). An 800mAh 12C battery can supply 12x800mA or 9.6 Amps. Sometimes you'll see two C ratings given for a battey - continuous and burst. The continuous rating is what it can supply, well, continuously. The burst rating is what it can supply for a second or two.

A couple of things to keep in mind is that weight is an important factor with anything that flies. A 2000mAh battery won't give you twice as much flying time as a 1000mAh battery because it's probably twice as heavy. You reach a point where the helicopter won't even be able to lift the battery. It's also been reported here that high C batteries tend to burn up motors and ESCs. That extra whammo can do some damage.

So the answer to your question is that something in the 1000mAh area, 10C to 15C will work just great in the 22E.

Hope this helps!
-JT

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2008 4:49:40 AM   
hfenn


 

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Has anyone used the metal upgrades from cnchelicopter aka xmseller on eBay?

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2008 5:20:35 AM   
dodgemcopter


 

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Thanks jtspin, the smallest ones I can get from local shop is 16c 1300mah so I may have to ebay them, may even wait till my HBK2 arrives and pick a happy medium then grab a few that will suit both. Not ready for flat out stunts yet but bit more air time would be handy.

hfen, I bought these for my 22 and went from fighting the hover and breaking balls on slightly heavy landings to a much more controllable hover and no broken balls with heavy landings. I did make some other improvements but did find it much more durable, doesn't flex and hit tail boom like plastic stuff. One thing i found with this also is when first installed it vibrated its nickers off, stuck a piece of paper in the T block section and squashed the "thing that holds the flybar linkages, has two small screws either side that pivot" with a hammer to eliminate the slop and it stopped the vibes. The other small thing i found is the tiny guide rod on the swash plate fell out, found it lucky enough and stuck it in with a bit of glue/locktight.........not ot mention it looks very sexy with the metal head lol.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2008 10:31:41 PM   
hfenn


 

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Thanks dodgemcopter , I bought a set and the problem I'm having is that the balls are too big for the links. They fit so tight that they make the servo horns make a popping sound when they try to move. The only part I put on so far is the swash because my stock one popped apart twice already. Luckily both times I had just lifted off and was only inches from the ground.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2008 1:37:08 AM   
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Hey guys.. flew again twice today..(the wife was in a good mood) and everything went great.. No more control problems and the heli did what I wanted it to do.. I even had my son take some short video of me hovering into a 5mph headwind.. He got pretty close to the heli a few times and that kind of made me nervous.. I'm getting better, but not good enough to risk my sons life.. the vid came out pretty good and I will post it when his new cable comes in to download to youtube.. I flew again this afternoon so my wife could see my progress.. she was surprised how much better I got.. I was doing mostly hovers and some small circles and such.. I was in a very confined area and it was fun being in control again... I hope last weeks control issues are behind me.. seemed that the heli was just so much more responsive today and never even an issue with control...
I still have yet to install the new metal head I got over a month ago as well as the balky venom motor.. it seems the motor had to break in I guess...I know the Walkera ones don't have this problem, but the motor is fine now, lots of power to pull out of mistakes, and the tail was even holding its heading better today.. Nothing is different except the day..LOL

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2008 4:10:07 AM   
Tommyjoking


 

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Hfenn A problem I had with one of the metal heads I have is it came with 4mm balls, the stock links are made for 3.8 mm. There are a few solutions. The heads look identical except one has silver balls with phillips screws going thru them (bad one) ...the other two I have have allen heads and are gold in color they are the right size.

1. you can change your current (balls) out to 3.8mm losb balls. I am not sure but I think the threads will work.

2. you can squeeze your links (i did this) Use a pair of needle nose pliers and gently squeeze it just a bit while its on the ball and it will loosen up. Don't squeeze it too hard just a bit at a time. Good idea to have a full set of backup linkage.

3. you can use a ball link sizing tool ...its kinda like a round reamer.....not heard much promising things about them. However a few guys have made homemade devices that work great for them.

Do not try to fly it with the linkage too tight like that, it will just strip and or burn out your servos or worse.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2008 8:46:39 AM