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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2009 11:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		+1 what Philly said .. the 1000mah,

you are going to want another battery anyway..
You have to squeeze the battery.. they start to go bad
with a little puffyness.. still hold a charge but
increasing get puffier and less able to hold a charge.
But with all things helicopter... it  very well be something
else.. and it might be the charger.
that even if its electrically and not mechanical.

These are neat little gadgets that most of us use...
shows a cell by read out in volts..
http://www.helidirect.com/batteries-battery-accessories-c-1_31_384.hdx

and a lot of people use these beeping flashing warnings...
this one will definitly show you your voltage is dropping fast
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lipo-battery-Low-voltage-warning-alarm-3s-7-4v-11-1v-RC_W0QQitemZ370204086480QQihZ024QQcategoryZ34056QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2009 6:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those beeping devices seem very useful but pricey, I'm going to buy the 1000mah battery today and a bag of screws.

Any word on the quality of the GA-003 charger that came with my helicopter?




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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2009 6:42 PM   
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this link..
http://www.helidirect.com/deluxe-16s-lipo-battery-monitor-p-7198.hdx




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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/24/2009 8:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		How does device work, how does it inditcate if a battery is good or gone bad?


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2009 12:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Walkera GA-003 2-3 Cell LIPO Charger is a decent low priced LIPO charger.  It works perfectly.  I have three of them.  The new version is the GA-005 LIPO charger.  It looks exactly the same.



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2009 4:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm going to order this volt meter, 5$ + free shipping can't beat that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RC-Lipo-battery-LED-voltage-meter-indicator-11-1v-3cell_W0QQitemZ200344891432QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea57c7028&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1240|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

and possibly a balancer, I've got this one in mind.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Balancer-Charger-EK2-0851-for-7-4-11-1V-Li-Po-Battery_W0QQitemZ270381124831QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ef3f88cdf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50




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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2009 4:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a whole world of balancer / chargers out there...

I do believe that the charger you already have is also a balancer.

Also note.. that many times a charger does not come with the AC power supply.
But if the one you mentioned doesn't you can probably use the power supply that
came with your Walkera GA-003.

You also have to pay attention to the plugs... how will the unit you want connect to your battery ?
ahh... I just noticed on this website, the same one you are trying to buy, does have the correct battery connections.
http://www.xheli.com/3emosmpllp25.html


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/25/2009 7:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		my plastic head doesn't convince me whatsoever, so I'm thinking of ordering the aluminum CNC head from here
http://www.walkera-parts.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=9027

Will this do, and  can I get it cheaper else where?


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2009 4:02 PM   
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This may have been answered, but yes, I just use tape to smooth out the edges trying to add the same amount of tape to each blade to keep them balanced.

You might check if you got glue on the shaft next to the T block and it can't slide up and down.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2009 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure if you need a metal head yet.  The plastic ones work good once you replace the ball links with losi1051 balls.

I agree with Rob that it sounds like you might have to much pitch as you increase throttle so the heli bogs down and won't go up.  You probably need to adjust the PLT and PIT knobs.  You need to limit how much the head moves up and down as you raise the throttle up and down.  You can see the impact of how they work with the motors unplugged.  But you should end up between 10 and 2 O'clock on the knobs. 



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2009 5:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		 The metal head is on my mind if the rotor head starts to get damaged a lot, but for now I'm just waiting on the esky 1000mah battery and some screws.

The nice folks at hobby4less gave me a lipo that's 2 years old, the batt that came with the heli.

I will add tape to the other blade and help it balance. I noticed there is  about  .5 - 1 inch of up and down play from the end of each blade, I can't tighten anymore the screws on each side that goes to the blue box.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/26/2009 5:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		simio,

There is a flat spot on the main shaft that the blue box (T-Block) should be locked on.  Pull out the screw and slid the T-Block up and down so you can see the flat spot.  When screwing in the screw do it loosly and see if you can feel it get in the flat spot and then tighten it down at the top of the flat spot on the main shaft.

make sure your new lipo is 11.1 volts, a three cell.  I see the one you took a picture of was a three cell.

There is always some play in the head but not much.  The blade holders should only be tight enough to keep the blades out straight when you tip the heli sideways.  So as loose as possible without the blades just dropping down when you tilt the heli sideways.

The head should spin pretty freely.  if it feels tight the motor and main gear mesh might be to tight.  It has to be as loose as possible but not slip when you fire up the heli, it can take a few tries to get it right.  It seems like it's too loose when its right.  Try it and if the main gear doesn't slip (whirring gringding noise when you power up) then it is not to loose.

Good luck.
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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/27/2009 7:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new motor I put in was too meshly tight with the main gear, now its better adjusted and more loose.

I wont be testing it out until I get my new battery soon. If all goes well I'll be crashing soon.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/28/2009 9:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Uh.. well... I hate to repeat myself as my other veterans of this forum know...

There is tons of info in this thread so while you are waiting it would be good for
you to go back and start reading the many messages with the wealth of information
that has been written on these helis. There is a search function near the bottom
of the page to search this specific thread.

But for now... Have you removed the sticker that comes on each motor.. the sticker
covers one of the vents on the motor so its good to remove it.
Second, we all use heat sinks on our main motors and the rear motor (using heat sink compound found at Radio Shack).
Thirdly... its very good to break in your new motors. 30 seconds... let it cool down. 45 seconds... let it cool down.. a repeat more 45 seconds and cool downs.
A minuit cool down... repeat minuit cool downs... etc etc. until you get up to 4 or 5 minuit flights.
Just touch the motor you will see how hot it gets.

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Main heat sink first... then tail type second.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/28/2009 10:16 PM   
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Rob,

I assume you were talking about a breakin procedure for brushed motors right?  I never breakin brushless motors.  Plus, I only breakin the main motor but it might be a good idea to make short flights with a new brushed tail motor till it stops overheating, I probably did that.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/29/2009 12:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a lot of good information. Lucky if I find the right post  when I need it,  I'll take care of the sticker, I didn't think of that.

I have heatsink paste from when I installed my cpu, I wonder if it would be a good idea to do the same with the heli heatsink.

On the mean time my 22e is a very nice decorative ornament.



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/30/2009 1:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've just received the battery, its looks good.

The first thing I noticed was the plug of the new battery is like those red plugs that go to the motor, and not like the stock black 2-3 pin plug. (the charger plug is the same)

I'm guessing im going to have to clip and solder the old battery plug carefully on to the new battery. I'm  a little nervous since its a lipo battery, what should I do?

Edit: I've found the perfect match for the e-sky batterym My old motor that went out uses the female plug, perfect fit.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/30/2009 2:20 AM   
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I recently modified the Walkera #22E 6-channel heli with a brushless main motor.  It works really well.  Below is a short flight using the modified brushless main motor kit on the Walkera #22E/ Exceed Eagle 50 6-channel CP heli.  The video will show how fast this bird can accelerate up, climb, and spin.  You can hear the brushless motors purr. The brushless main motor system  was tested using an 11.1 volt 1,000 Mah 15c LIPO.  The flight time was about 5-7 minutes on average.




Below is the modified 6-channel Walkera #22E / Exceed Eagle 50 with a brushless main motor that stays cool to the touch after each flight.  Installed are the Super Skids 300 landing gear system with the super skids adapter 22 overlayed with a cool looking blue CNC metal rotor head rotor head assembly and metal tail struts for more support of the tail boom, Super Skids Titanium Tail boom (305),  and black carbon fiber composite blades.  A larger 11.1 volt 1,000 Mah 15c LIPO battery is used for longer flight times with an ON/OFF power switch for convenience.



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/31/2009 2:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys...  I have my 22E on life support.  I was getting cocky and flying in the wind and crashed pretty hard.  Tail First!!  grrrrrr...

I has helped me learn a lot about flying heli's though and it was my first so, I can't seem to scrap it yet.  I have since moved on to a Blade 400.  I also put together a HK450 that I currently am enjoying a lot.  Was flying it in the wind in the back-yard and I had a blast.

Hey to cen, philly, jd and the gang!!  Thanks for all the tips and info.  It was priceless!!  I will send money as soon as my hobby lets me.  LOL!! 

Funny one.  I put a 450 size motor in my 22E....  waaaaay to much power and I tried real hard to keep the head speed reasonable. With the lowest tooth count I could scrounge up.  I think it was a 10 tooth.   Anyway, back to the standard brushless motor.  It was just fine!

I am seriously thinking of buying a 2.4ghz version 22E and using the other parts for spares.  It is fun to fly and mangle these past few months.  hehehe!!

Later gang!!  Thanks again for everything!



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/31/2009 5:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok guys
2 cents here. On the motor break in bit I connect it to 6 V and do the 30 second unplug, one minute unplug etc to 3 mintues. The motor I did that with has been the longest lasting.
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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/31/2009 3:23 PM   
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Ok guys
2 cents here. On the motor break in bit I connect it to 6 V and do the 30 second unplug, one minute unplug etc to 3 mintues. The motor I did that with has been the longest lasting.
Cheers



And this from a guy that puts mayonaise on his rotors to make them spin smoother.



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 5/31/2009 5:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope he doesn't have a pet, cat can smell mayonese a mile away!

I have bad news, after replacing the new battery you guys recommended me I plug in the heli and I do some throttle test without blades and after a couple of minutes the main motor died again! this is my second motor omg.

I plugged my stock motor directly on to my old battery and it doesn't even twich. How can my second motor thats not even 2 weeks old and hasn't flown yet die?

What can I do to troubleshoot this motor, and why did it happen so fast ? I don't get it it was a perfectly good motor and no crashes.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 6/1/2009 10:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Helimangler.. your welcome and I will send you my paypal address whenever funds permit.... sorry to hear about the tail in crash.. they are the worst and usually cause the most destruction...

I haven't had alot of time to fly lately due to work and family stuff.. My good flying time is early in the morning and the weather has been crap... either raining or too much dew on the grass from the cool nights and warm days..

Philly.. still haven't decided on another Heli since the 22e's departure... I did pick up a gasser, but I haven't flown it yet... I have a few things that I have to get for it before its ready for its maiden... they are not as user friendly as our electrics but the price was too good to pass up.. "Free"..... I am still leaning towards the Belt CP but I will only get the 2.4 GHZ version.. I will never run fm again.. I still have the scars from the 22E...

Simio... The 22E stock motors are a crapshoot at best.. I've had some that lasted months with no breakin and others that didn't even last a flight.. If you are going to keep the helicopter, get a few spare motors and tail motors.. you will need them anyway... Hopefully all the other issues have been worked out... These little birds need to be very balanced or they won't/can't fly...

Rob..whats wrong with mayonaise on the rotors?... other than the smell it custs thru the air faster... or Philly using that for bearing lube?

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 6/3/2009 8:10 PM   
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or Philly using that for bearing lube?


Nawww... Cheesey Steak uses Cheese Wiz for lube.  How could you think anything else?



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 6/3/2009 8:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, back to NJ in September, more philly Cheesestake sandwiches at the employee cafeteria, YUM.  I know its New Jersey but they were still good, LOL.

But I would like to suggest lubbing one blade with mayo and the other with mustard so you can more easily track the blades, LOL


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