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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/14/2009 3:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its a pain in the ass to replace that part, already on my spare helicopter I had to use inhuman brute force to get the T-block out of the shaft, surprisingly its the shaft isn't bent or broken. Its painful enough thinking I have to shove it through that T-block hole again.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/14/2009 3:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		TY Cenracer,

I did do a helicopter tour over New York City once!! Years ago.
The heli they used to emergency lift me was pretty smooth though. we went through a mountain pass and they said it might get bumpy but even that was pretty mild. So it was a good flight, LOL.

It had a crew of 3. Pilot, co- pilot and the one that stayed in the back / center of the heli with us.

I can hardley wait to see the bill!!. I heard the bike damage was $16,000. it will be awhile untill this whole thing is done.

Oh, and I'm not flying my heli's while high on pain killers, no need for another accident, LOL.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/14/2009 5:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		So far I have crashed my heli twice in 25 flights. First time was to avoid a cat and the second when I attempted to do some foward flight and I was to hard on the controls and lost it. What are some tips to help make the heli more stable?

On another note, I was thinking about upgrading to a copterx and was think of moving the electronics from the 22e over. Is it even worth it? I want to do it as cheaply as possible.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/14/2009 6:21 PM   
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Its a pain in the ass to replace that part, already on my spare helicopter I had to use inhuman brute force to get the T-block out of the shaft, surprisingly its the shaft isn't bent or broken. Its painful enough thinking I have to shove it through that T-block hole again.


Like I said, it's not easy since it is the center of everyting. Sort of like ripping the heart out of the heli. Again, as you get better at flying, the fixing patch and the T-Shape holder won't be the parts that need to be replaced. It will be blades and LIPO batteries.

Still, its a pain to repair.






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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/15/2009 4:35 PM   
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I guess it could be done.. but not really.

You have a dedicated gyro, esc (electronic speed controller), and receiver on the bigger heli's.
You will also want and need a better transmitter (programmable).

If you go to a bigger heli make sure you get the 2.4ghz system. While I still fly the older system
of 72mhz transmitter and receiver as many do and it is quite adequate, there isn't much of a price
difference for the newer 2.4ghz systems which are better because there is very little chance of interference.

I have bought from these guys and the price is pretty good..
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=334_174&products_id=5672
It is the aluminum frame set up.. which I think is better for the beginner because the frame
will bend instead of break in a crash with carbon fiber frames.. which is good for a beginner.
I have crashed mine a lot and bent the frame back many times to fly again without problems.
The blades suck that come with it.. they will fly fine but they do suck compared to the
Align woodies most beginners use... and will take you through flips and rolls
http://www.helidirect.com/align-325mm-pro-rotor-blade-redwhite-hs115801-p-1104.hdx (red)
http://www.helidirect.com/align-325mm-pro-rotor-bladeblack-hs115800-p-731.hdx (black)


With all RTF (ready to fly) systems you will want to go back and check a lot of the screws for loctite.
Especially the dangerous parts like the blade grips which can be very dangerous if they come loose.
It's good to get a package of socket head set screws.. a little pricey but even the align trex 450 uses
the phillips head screws on most of the heli so those guys replace them with these too..
http://www.readyheli.com/Rave_450_Socket_cap_screw_set_p/nd-yr-as034.htm

And if you do start flying 450 size heli's you will want to get into all the info over at helifreak.com...
You will bow down with praise all the info Finless Bob has put out.. here are a couple of links for starters...
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=11373 Trex 450 build videos.. almost exactly the same as a Copter X
http://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47 450 forum...
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692 Heli Skills and Setup 101

Happy flying.
Rob (currently socked in with a big nor'easter off the coast).

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/15/2009 6:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Getting another new 2.4 GHZ Walkera #22E/Exceed Eagle 50 is $99.00(USD) from www.xheli.com

You can also get a used 2.4Ghz over www.ebay.com

I bought one extra for spare parts as it was cheaper to buy another heli



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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/19/2009 11:23 PM   
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Long time no see and no hear. What is flying in your corner.
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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/21/2009 8:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Still have the same stuff PhillyD... just don't have the time right now to get another helicopter setup... I have about 1 hour per week to do anything and since the weather is getting cold, heli's are not a priority right now... My wife has been hinting about getting me a new toy for Xmas, so maybe then.... I still have all the info you sent me a while back, but if I need more, I know how to get in touch with you..LOL... I know you never want to hear about weather keeping someone from flying, but if I can't feel my fingers... Its cold...

JD... Nice way to see NYC..... I don't want to fly in a Heli around NYC.. too dangerous.. there was a bad crash there about a month ago.. alot of people died.... Hope your feeling better.. I wouldn't want to see the bill either....

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/22/2009 8:49 PM   
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Very Nice to hear from you.
I have the same problem with time. Sometines 9 days would pass and no flying; then sometimems I gotta say no matter how busy I am in the farm after a work day, I must could find 10 minutes for some more adrenalin

It would seem you and I have the best wives left. All my other heli pals have had the helis budgeted out of existence, wives wants to throw them out or acquisiton inhibited by using the money for a unnecessary plane trip. One was even investigating how much current charging the batteries took, not checking to see how much the hair dryer and curling iron took

Oh me my, my Brother your weather is quite different to mine starting about now for you. I would hate for your heli to fly off into the sunset and you can't feel or find your fingers
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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/24/2009 7:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you are right... My wife doesn't say much about the costs involved.. I don't really tell her anyway, but time is whats killing me now... Its too dark in the morning before work this time of year and by the time I get home its dark as well... On my days off, I have so much stuff to do.. I try to find time and do fly here and there, but not like the summer... also, the weather is junk now... If its not too windy, its too cold or raining and yes we've had two snow events already... winter is just around the corner... LOL
My wife doesn't go as far as to figure charging costs and such.. if the bills get paid first... she's usually pretty good.... I guess I will have to start flying indoors again.. something that I hate doing.... just not as much fun for me.... Keep in touch.... Rich

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/26/2009 10:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just wanted to vent.

My main motor burnt out. What the hell! I only had about 40+ flights on it. When does the tail normally die around. Thank fully when I was practicing touch and goes, the motor failed when it was on the ground. Shouldn't it have lasted a couple of hundred flights?

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/26/2009 11:52 PM   
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I just wanted to vent.

My main motor burnt out. What the hell! I only had about 40+ flights on it. When does the tail normally die around. Thank fully when I was practicing touch and goes, the motor failed when it was on the ground. Shouldn't it have lasted a couple of hundred flights?


The stock main motor should last about 150 full flights on average with a main motor heat sink. The stock tail motor sould last about 30 full flights on average with a tail motor heat sink.

One of the ways Walkera/Exceed makes money is replacement parts. That is basically blades, batteries, and motors. If you can eliminate one of these items ou can save a lot of money. The typical stock tail motor cost about $8.00(USD) to replace. I fly about 5 times a day. That would mean after 7 days (one week), I would have to buy a new motor. After one year, I would have spent ($8.00 * 52 weeks = $416.00)

I modified this heli and have a totally brushless kit available. Below is a video of the totally brushless motor system for the 2.4 GHz Walkera #22E/Exceed Eagle 50 6-Channel CP heli.






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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/28/2009 3:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		On my axe cp i rotated the tail 180, fliped the prop and reversed the polarity so it blows back on itself. The tail motor is just warm now after a flight. Has anyone done this with the 22e? And also im confused with xheli's advertising. The eagle 50 and 22e are the same right? Ok the eagle says 7-9 min flight time and the 22e says 20-25 min of fligth time what the heck is this? So what are the average flight times u guys are getting with the birds? Are they both the same? thank you

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 10/31/2009 9:28 PM   
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The stock main motor should last about 150 full flights on average with a main motor heat sink. The stock tail motor sould last about 30 full flights on average with a tail motor heat sink.

Before I sold my 22E's, I was getting on average about 35 flights on the main and around 30 on the tail motors.. 150 flights seems a bit excessive but I guess its possible.. I would keep a few spares onhand at all times so I was never down... going brushless is the way to go, but I've moved on to other helicopters.. although I loved the 22E, just hated the radio.. got rid of mine before the 2.4 came out...

The eagle50/22E are the same thing.. they both average about 7-10 minutes on a standard lipo battery.. 400mah 3S lipo...


I've never heard of flipping the tail and motor around. I imagine the gyro going nuts, but since I've never heard of anyone doing this, anything is possible... sounds like a decent idea to help cool the tiny tail motor...

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/14/2009 3:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		hello all ...need some help with the 22e.... was checking servos on heli and found that the servo on the right hand side was not working totaly .... it would move one way but just chatter on the other direction ... tried a new servo and the same thing ...wondering if reciever is hooped ....thnxs people for your help in this SAM

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/14/2009 5:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Try switching the servo plugs in the receiver. Plug the one that's not working into the channel of the one that is working, and the servo that is working into the channel of the one that's not. See if the problem follows the servo or the receiver channel.


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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/14/2009 11:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have tried new servo in slot and it still does the ( used 3 new servo'sin slot still the same ) same thing ....noticed that someone has had the reciever opened because the seal was broken ...will check for cool solder joints on it .....thanx sam

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/14/2009 11:40 PM   
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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/15/2009 1:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		72mhz .... going to check for a cold solder joint on reciever .... If you have any info on recievers that could help me that would be great as to where to check on reciever...thanx Sam

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/21/2009 8:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow huge thread on this heli! No time to sift thru all 500 posts so here ya go Walkera experts.
First, I've been flying helis for around 3 years. Started on a Align Trex 450 worked up to .50 nitros (raptor50) and 10S Electrics( MA Razor 600E). I can fly mild 3D and Inverted tricks.
Now I started on the Trex so I KNOW "squirrly"! This little 22E is borderline uncontrollable! A friend of mine gave it to me because he couldn't fly it so I've been racking my head trying figure out why it is so darn squirrly, it acts like the flybar is too tight or something is too tight. I can't even hover the thing with out fighting the controls. First flight it rolled over on it's side and broke the mixer arms on the grass! Weak!! So those were replaced and I completely dismantled the head looking for some thing wrong. Nothing. I started from scratch on the setup according to a website I found. Servos are 90 degrees, swash is level, all links are the standard length, the head block is in the right spot on the flat at 9mm from the top of the main shaft. Slapped the pitch gauge on the head gave myself max 4-5 dgres pos pitch and gave her a try. ALL OVER the place! even out of ground effect. All servos look and feel smooth. I'm stumped what do you think??

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/23/2009 12:38 AM   
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You got a 22E. I can be flown though; It will keep your reflexes in tip top shape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxQLBH6o3to

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/23/2009 1:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where are your servo horns connnected to your links? Towards the out side or in closer? I know the 22e is not supposed to be a stable bird but what I have is more than anyone should have to handle. Something other than inherent walkera tendencies is going on with mine. Does your headblock head block flap up and down a bit? This bird was a hand me down so I don't know what it brand new state was; therefore I can see anything wrong with it.

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/23/2009 3:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 2.4Ghz Walkera #22E/Exceed Eagle 50 low cost easy to fly 6-channel CP heli. The stock tail motor fails quickly after a couple dozen flights. So, I converted the motors to a totally brushless system with the brushless tail motor acting as a direct drive (DD). Below is a short video of the heli flying - it flys well.





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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/23/2009 5:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		dchin,
If that is a reply to my question I think you missed my point. Your fully blinged out 22e is nice but I just want to get my stock bird flying. I already have a Trex 450, this thing is just a project of mine, it was free so I'm not putting a ton of money into polishing this turd. I'm looking for ideas on how to make it flyable. I can't believe you still have those stock servos on yours!

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RE: Walkera 22E Lets Talk - 11/23/2009 12:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		The stock servos came with this heli and I have not had to replace them yet. I'm not going to get new servos until they fail. I'm surprised since they are plastic nylon gears but there is no reason to replace until they fail. I'm not sure what your point is. All nylon geared servos aren't that great I have used them all. At the end of the day you might say some plastic nlon geared servos are better, but that's crap. Metal Geared servos are the best but cost an arm and a leg. Also the bigger the servos, the better they are since the motor in the servo is usually bigger and a lot stronger in torque.

With a 7 gram nylon servo, you can't expect much but it works fine with this heli.



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