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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 8:56:29 AM   
j.d.roxx


 

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Status: offline 		Well we know that the new RCMT issue has the T_maxx outhandling the Savage and it gave it a higher score, but how come in the T-Maxx vs Savage shootout a couple of months ago they were tied in handling? To be honest i really dont care about RCCA and RC Nitro because they are full of BS, as long as a company advertises with them they always give them a good review, even if it is a piece of crap. The only magazine that i can trust to give me an honest review complete with actual performance specs and problems is Xtreme RC.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 9:29:43 AM   
bubbafien


 

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Status: offline 		your full of it and need to open your eyes. HPI ADVERTISES WITH THEM TOO!

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 9:58:55 AM   
ridethelightnin


 

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Status: offline 		Here we go again with another my MT is better than your MT.

All I can say is this, I speak from experience and not some biased magazine review or because I am a die hard OFNA freak.

I have a Titan and I run it at a track down here in CA. I have one of the only Titans out there but from my experiences this is how I feel about this subject.

In a race, when the Dominator guys show up they win plain and simple! IF you want to win races and do some backyard bashing in your spare time get a Dominator. That MT was designed to race and win- and NO I don't own one but may soon. Next it's a toss up between the Titan and the Savages. The Savages handle really well and there is one guy and the track that has his setup so well he can beat most with his stock motor. Why? Cause he knows how to drive and how to setup his truck. It's not always about just brute speed. The Titan is right there with the Savage for overall performance. However top end with stock motors the Titan is a bit faster but so What? WHo leaves there MTs stock for long? Once you put a bigger motor in the Savage it is a screamer and then it comes to who can drive and setup their truck the best. The tmaxx is small, light and a quick truck but it's 1/10 scale with one kicker of a motor in it bUt I hate to tell you guys that they handle like crap.

I am not going to listen (read) a bunch of BS because I have seen these guys try and land these things on the many jumps on the trac. Most of the time if the maxx catches any real air they flip after they land and even in the remote chance they were ahead of me, I am there to pass them up as the Marshals are running out on the track to flip them back over.

That brings another point, when I collide with the Tmaxxs on the track I run right over the top of them with my Titan. I don't do it intentionaly but stuff happens on a track. It's simple physics, the Titan is much heavier than the Tmaxx and with my deluxe chassis I have much better stability.

Ok, now I am ready for all you backyard putz's to tell me I am full of crap but I know better I am out racing every weekend.

IF you like what you drive that's all that matters. Different strokes for different folks. I have a Titan and I like it but it has issues just as all the other MTs. I am sure I would have been happy with a Savage and Tmaxxs are good but I think you really need to invest a lot of $$ in aftermarket parts to make them worthy to compete in a race.

I won my first race a couple of weeks ago, not because I was the best driver or I was the fastest MT but because the savages and Tmaxxs broke down. I just hung in the back and waited for them to break somthing on a jump. Durability means just as much as speed, however, Titan's have their problems too I just got lucky.

FYI, I was badly beaten this weekend with my .26 because they are crap engines. Don't buy one, very hard to tune!! I posted a thread on that subject.

Later, beer time!!

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 10:35:10 AM   
Hinkles_Hounds


 

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Status: offline 		I have a t-maxx 2.5 that I put a sirio 18 in and it rocks. my buddy bought the savage the other day. I have a great track in my back yard. it has a 70 foot straight that ends with a large woop then steep flat curve then a nice table top (10 to 15+ feet air travel ),then a woop sectionthat ends in a a banked hair pen curve then and a double that to clear takes at least 10 feet of air in distance the another flat wide curve that leads back to straight. about 250 feet inside measurement by 8 to 12 feet wide .any way we all have t-maxx 2.5s but him, and he is very competitive on the track the staright is only place that we have real advantage over him ( mind you we are all still running stock gearing but not for long ) ther are two sirio 18s that run and they are more powerful that stock 2.5s and savage but on the track its not that much differece between them all most of it is driver ability (keeping it on 4 wheels not on its back) the savage is alot better handleeing it soaks up things that would make a t-maxx cartwheel like a cheerleader and it has awesome bottom and mid range. it just doesnt have any top it needs a 3rd gear. we have only practiced with him so far are next race is in a couple weeks . we will see how he does.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 10:42:27 AM   
dmzamora



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Status: offline 		Glad to finally see some unbiased posts

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 10:48:12 AM   
j.d.roxx


 

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Status: offline 		Bubbafien, i know that HPI advertises with them, but that wasnt my point. My point is how come the same mag has bias ratings on the same vehicles, by that i mean in one issue they were tied on on handling but in a special issue a couple of months later one is better than the other, Savage a 7 and a T-Maxx a 9! That is a pretty big difference in ratings if you are going 1 thru 10. Bottom line is that all of the trucks are great, each has pros and cons. Savage owners love their Savages, and T-Maxx owners love their T-Maxxs, Titan owners love their Titans, etc,etc..... and as far as full of it, i mean come on, this coming from a guy who thinks everything is a copy of the T-Maxx(probably considers my sons Power Wheels a copy because it has 4 wheels) and thinks the Savages TVP design is bad engineering(since when does a person named Bubba have a degree in engineering anyways?). So go ahead Bubba flame away at me(or anything that isnt a T-Maxx)!

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/30/2003 11:20:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		ill make it simple and blunt

Nobody here is talking about a dominator for one, we all know its won the maxx challenge 3 years in a row, but thats before the savage could get into the mix, along with all the new MT's available as of late. As for the Tmaxx being better than the savage, every review put out where the 2 face each other, the tmaxx has pulled ahead hate it or love it. Ridethelightning doesnt seem to understand the tmaxx very well on the track, just because htey roll alot in grass, they dominate on a track. they may not be the best, but they can handle some areas alot better than the savage. The tmaxx GRABS the track when it comes to loose dirt, dont deny this. As for durability being a factor and not the driver when it came to you winning your race, that obviously proves your locals DONT know how to drive there cars, if they are breaking everything. And unlike you, my oppinion is UNBAISED as I own a terra crusher and a savage on the way. I've driven all of them on our huge indoor track, and I know how they handle. Yes if you want to win races and go off topic from the original post, get a dominator, BUT THATS NOT WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. same with your oversized underpowered titan.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 12:32:15 AM   
bubbafien


 

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Status: offline 		i dont have anything against savages like i said they each have their strong points. and i am not flaming away at you or any body i do not want to get personal with you i just dont think the mag is going to be biased.
we all know the strong points savage jumps better, so what!etc.
this thread will go on to its 100th page with the argument mine is better than yours. the savage handles some things better and t maxx others.
BOTH GREAT TRUCKS.

but to others just dont make things up and try to say that the savages and maxxes are breaking left and right because everyone knows they are not. and dont feed us that crap about you 4 foot long monster truck that goes 32.

and most people on this post are probably not "BACKYARD PUTZ'S"

lets end this post because it is ending up in 100% personal arguments.

bubbafien

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 1:03:50 AM   
ridethelightnin


 

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Status: offline 		Ok casey you're the expert. How many times have you been to a track? How many MTs do you own and which ones? All you do is read but you have no real experience with anything but you are an expert about everything.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 3:46:26 AM   
caseyddr



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Status: offline 		sigh, owned an emaxx, own a terra crusher, getting a Savage within the next week, and looking at the Cen MT2. I go to the indoor track 2 days a week when there is nitro practice then nitro racing.

[url]www.planetrcraceway.com[/url]

that should be our site.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 4:00:00 AM   
creeping death


 

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Status: offline 		you crack me up casey...I believe you were RIPPING the savage in a thread about 6 weeks ago, and now you're buying one...I think that says a lot about the savage!

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 4:30:01 AM   
ridethelightnin


 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Ridethelightning doesnt seem to understand the tmaxx very well on the track, just because htey roll alot in grass, they dominate on a track. they may not be the best, but they can handle some areas alot better than the savage. [/QUOTE]

Our track is dirt and it's true the tmaxx's can't stick a landing. You call that a track you race on? lol It may be good for an electric car but that isn't a REAL track. Your track looks good for that little wimpy 1/10 scale t-bags you drive.

Once you get your savage, you will bag your t-trash.

[QUOTE]that obviously proves your locals DONT know how to drive there cars, if they are breaking everything.[/QUOTE]

.. .and it's "their" car not "there" car.

Well when you run on a REAL track with REAL jumps you break stuff not like your kiddie track designed for 1/10 scale t-bags or electric cars.

[QUOTE]same with your oversized underpowered titan.[/QUOTE]

My Titan would crush your pathetic little t-bagg and only a couple of months ago you were ranting about how great the Titans were. Now you change your opinion like the wind!! Your opinion obviously has lost its merit because of this and next month you will be all for some other truck.

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 4:51:25 AM   
bubbafien


 

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Status: offline 		this isn't even a titan post so go start your own TITAN post!
(maybe i will hmmm...) don't just start dissing peoples cars and tracks nobody has done that about you titan. and i am pretty sure people are entitled to an opinion change! he probably just figured(before he saw one run) that they would go faster than 25! i am pretty sure almost EVERY MAXX/SAVAGE owner would agree that they would unmercifly beat a titan on the track, they are not meant for racing! and i am sure you have made a spelling mistake before so don't even try that. and"wimpy t-bagg's"?

thay go nearly 2x as fast and pull wheelies!
and if they had tires as big as a bike i am sure they would!
i'd like to see how fast a titan is with maxx tires(or how slow)!

bubbafien

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The Titan - 5/31/2003 7:16:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		only does 25mph ?

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XTM Xfactor vs. T-Maxx vs. Savage 21? - 5/31/2003 7:25:34 AM