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Hi all; I'd like to get veiws as to weather this is considered a patteren or 3D aeroplane. Wt 5.5lbs/span 59"/Saito 82a. Pic showes max throw avalibble, but I have it at Low rate 25%, 15% expo -- and High rate 50%, 60% expo. Just getting into aerobatics and lean towards patteren, but would like to leard to hover and harrier.
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my 2cent opinion is more towards 3D then a pattern plane. I have See Bee & Imagine 50 which lean more toward pattern. anyway edge 540 can just do about any routine precisely in the right hand...
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This thread has most of the info I've been looking for!! After seeing this I will definately hang on to my Jester and Lucky Fly. Are these 2 decent pattern planes or not? Hope so. Also would these be adequate 2nd planes or 3rd. Got my feet wet last year but going to jump in head first this year!
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I'm looking to get into Pattern flying. I have an UltraSport 1000 w/Saito 1.50GK. 79.5" wingspan and I have to weigh it to make sure I am under the limit. I have modified the tail feathers to be a bit larger than a stock US. Would this be a good plane to get started with or should I purchase something else to begin with? I'm just getting back into flying and I'm refreshing with a H9 Ultra Stick 40 with a Saito FA-80 on it.
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I'm looking to get into Pattern flying. I have an UltraSport 1000 w/Saito 1.50GK. 79.5" wingspan ... Would this be a good plane to get started with or should I purchase something else to begin with?
There is no reason why you could not practice with your plane. Not sure what rules exactly are applied in the lower level competition classes in your area, or how strictly they are applied.
If you can fly a straight line and do a loop, roll and stall turn with your plane, go and practice to make them perfect.
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Ultra Sport is a fine plane to start with... The AMA patern says under 11 lbs, and under 2 meters long, and under 2 meters in wing span...BUT.. I believe that if you show up at a contest to fly with that plane, you will be fine.. Patern is fun, you compete against your self in that you want to fly to what you percieve is the best of you ability!! sure there are others you are flying against, BUIT 1st and foremost fly to suit yourself!! just my opinion!!
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The winspan of the ultra sport 1000 is over the 2M limit. Most CDs will allow this for the sportsman or beginner class. I sure do at my contest. We allow up to 26 pounds in sportsman. We are trying to let people fly what they have; so they can see if they like pattern. Personally I get a little worried about safety issues if someone is flying something bigger than 26 pounds and is just learning aerobatics.
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At most local contest we use the trust the flyer to tell us the weight and look at the plane. At the National Contest they use a digital gram scale set to 5kg or a balance the plane with a 5 kg certified weight.
For myself I use a fishing scale to get the ball park and go to the UPS store or the Post Office. My pattern flyers have their own digital gram scale. The worry at a 2 gram difference in the wing masses.
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Well I was considering purchasing said digital gram scale. I find I often have need to weigh stuff < 30 lbs and need more accuracy than the difference between me and me w/item on human scale. :-)
Any recommendations?
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Check any search engine. Had good experience with old will knott scales (website is same no spaces). Reasonable digital with a 15lb capacity and many others.
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For anyone who has never seen a pattern ship with an experienced pattern pilot flying it, I highly reccomend getting out to a field to watch it. I was still being instructed when I saw a team JR pilot do the FAI sequence, I was so impressed 9 minutes of the smoothest flying I have ever seen. I am now building a tiger 60 to the specs of our veteran pattern pilot so maybe I can try my hand at precision aerobatics.
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What is pattern flying...
More than likely you saw Dave Lockhart fly...Dave is a excellent precision aerobatic pilot who is also very generous with his ideas and experiences. Which is one of my favorite qualities of flying pattern and more specifically, flying in a contest.
The photos below are of an event I traveled to in South Carolina last year (Dave Lockhart, Troy Newman, Dean Pappas, Joey Hayes, Arch Stafford, Dave Guerin, Matt Kabajian, Tom Miller and Don Sczcur also attended). Of particular interest were the efforts to complete a new design/model "The Outlaw". These guys had a geat time traveling together in Joey Hayes' mondo fifth wheel, wrenching on the models and working through the first flights.
Chosing the path of precision aerobatics may improve your flying, increase your confidence, expand your modeling knowledge AND give you the opportunity to meet some very nice individuals!
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