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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/10/2006 11:33:23 PM   
    redbull08


     

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    I finally received mine today and like everyone else it is cold and snow everywhere. The car is great i just pulled it out of the box and was checking all of the screws to make sure they were tight. i was a little disappointed i got the yellow and black one and ordered the white and green one but who cares its GREAT!!!! Cant wait to break it in and have some fun.

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/10/2006 11:37:51 PM   
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    Congrats! Glad it looks good. Take your time during break in to be sure you think about everything before you do it. It will be more enjoyable if you don't make a bad mistake.

    Let us know how it goes.


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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/10/2006 11:40:46 PM   
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    Yeah i just printed off the break in that buggy put on here so i can read it as i am doing it. I think i am going to wait until the ground is dry plus i have to go spend 800 dollars on batterys then some Nitro for it. I will let you guys know how it goes. Thanks

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/11/2006 12:25:29 AM   
    Chubbysdad


     

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    Welcome. You will have alot of fun with it. As tempting as it is, do the break in. Also the color is not important, because If your like everyone else, you will get brave, and do somethings that will lead to a broken body, then replace with your favorite color

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/11/2006 12:35:21 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: redbull08

    plus i have to go spend 800 dollars on batterys


    LOL!!....aint that about the truth?... ...I bought Energizer Lithiums and I think it was like 30 bucks worth just for ONE of my vehicles!

    Oh well....they hold up VERY well and I'm sure eventually I'll drop some serious coinage on some really good rechargables.

    Good luck with break in...hope you enjoy the buggy and we are looking forward to your feedback!

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/11/2006 12:36:26 AM   
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    800 bucks? what are you buying? platinum edition diamond top duracels and liquid gold nitro? From all the batteries ive bought i think it would have been smarter to get rechargabe AA batteries. Even though they lose charge from sitting... instead of buying a new pack every couple weeks i can recharge...

    Stupidity 1 Me 0

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/11/2006 5:11:45 AM   
    trpastor


     

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    Hey Guys,

    I could use a little help on this one. I'm replacing my main gear and I put the mid differential back together, but it is hard to spin the mid diff. I can't remember if it should be this difficult or not. Anyone know how I can be sure that it is not binding up too much inside?


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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/11/2006 7:43:10 AM   
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    I remember being able to spin it from underneath with a finger with the wheels off the ground. Are you replacing a broken one with an upgrade or same as before?

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/12/2006 3:45:22 PM   
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    Hey Trpastor, had my buggy out over the weekend to finally give a tune after the run in. Went pretty well overall until a wheel nut came flying off along with a wheel!. Fortunately no damage at all. Just a few questions though. I had it set up nicely by the LHS so its idling well & the run in was no problems after I got a decent plug igniter. Now it seems I have to lean out the HSN needle. I have began to do this in very small amounts. Starting off on the rich run-in settings done by the LHS I first noticed that it acclerates brilliantly but as it gets to top speed it starts to "bunny hop" & splutter as if the trigger was being squeezed on & off then it would stall every so often. So I started to lean out the HSN and noticed that it now runs at a steady idle, doesn't stall but still splutters, just not as much this time. As it got hotter tho, it sorta smoothed out a little, giving a tremendous top speed, but still was effectively spluttering. Is this indicating that it's most likely still too rich and the HSN still needs leaning out? I beleive that leaning out the HSN needle effectively leans out the LSN as well? Does that mean, that as you lean out the HSN, you need to adjust the LSN again? I've got a smart temp and at its hottest it was about 250F, averaging around 230. That would also indicate its still a touch rich wouldn't it? It wouldn't be a servo problem or something?

    On the whole though its now idling constantly & seems to be getting easier to start everyday so at least thats a positive.

    Overall its dam fun hey. As these things are not indestructable I don't think I'll abuse it quite like some of the guys on here have. Still an expensive piece of machinery in my eyes. I've already flipped it a few times already without little effort so I can see how easy it would be for things to go awry. Curbs at high speed just doesn't seemed to be a good mix hey. I'm lucky that I have many wide open parks & car parks to run it in without too much for it to run into. Too powerful to run in my street without risking major damage.

    Could you also outline the difference between the LSN & the Idle screw(the little d*cky one thats a b*tch to get at) & their function please? Still a little unsure of their effect. By the way, that idle screw thats hard to reach, is dam hard to turn on my engine. Is that normal to be so tight? I haven't touched these 2 settings since the LHS tuned it. He said i should only lean out the HSN needle now.

    Also is there basic maintenance of these cars even a novice can do?

    Anyway a new wheel nut & I should be up & running again. Back to the park for more tuning.

    Cheers for now!
    ps. I feel almost guilty its summer here in Oz & the sun's shining....

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/12/2006 6:02:43 PM   
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    It depends on the sound its making at higher rpm. If it sounds like its flooding and blubbery then you are to rich.. if its more of a "machine gun" raspy hesitation or what seems like just a quick loss of power, you are getting to lean. Easiest way to be sure is by going more rich and see if your performance gets worse or better. Playing around with it is the easiest way to learn but when in doubt go rich and if your results are worse then start to go leaner. Make sure your motor is up to operating temp before you make any changes to the needles.

    The low speed needle controls the fuel/air mixture at idle to about 50% rpm. This is your overall punch off the line into the midrange rpms. The High speed needle is your fuel/air mixture from 50% rpm to max rpm AND your total fuel getting into the engine so leaning or richening the HSN also does the same to the LSN.

    Also on the vertex is a 3 needle carb. I found I got the best results leaving the gold screw on the opposite side of the flange flush with the carb and forgetting about it. I also never had to touch the idle screw but the easiest way to get to it is to slightly pull upward on the muffler by the manifold and go from underneath the muffler with a screwdriver to turn it. It was tight on the vertex but don't adjust it untill you have your HSN and LSN dialed in and still have problems at idle. Such as You get no hesitation off the line but the car stalls when sitting less than say 10 seconds... or the car wants to move on its own at idle. Other than that you shouldnt really have to touch the idle screw.

    I think all of us had a wheel come off when we first got these redcats Also be sure your batteries are in good shape. A good sign of failing batteries are things like this:

    The wheels dont turn as far as normal when steering..
    A good amount of jittering from the servos what might seem like interference, and my radio has also gone haywire when the batteries start to get low and the throttle control will start to turn the wheels instead of throttle/break.
    Sudden loss in breaking power.

    A good idea is to get rechargable batteries for the transmitter, but not the receiver. You can get a rechargable 5 cell pack for the receiver if you want to get the required voltage. The receiver requires anywhere from 4.8-6 volts and standard rechargables are about 1.2 giving you 4.8 which is pretty much the minimum required volts, but wont last very long so a 5 cell rechargable would solve this problem.

    Thats about all. We got like a foot and a half of snow here so im stuck inside. I got bored and tore my car down to nothing and cleaned everything, oiled the motor and sat it down till the snow melts. Im about to go borrow a snowblower and carve a track out in the street

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/13/2006 1:37:24 AM   
    Buggygovroom



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    Next Project... get this to fit on the redcat

    http://www.killerhobbies.com/browse_item_details.asp/Item_ID/247

    If it works its going to look badass

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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/13/2006 1:46:38 AM   
    trpastor


     

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    Hey Mozzy

    Glad you are having fun with it. I actually gave a brief mod to Darrin at Redcat about cutting downt the side panel making the idle screw more accesable. Not sure if he's had a chance to put it up though

    As far as the adjustments - from what you describe I would definitly say it's rich rather than lean. And Yes - on the top end. BGV gave a good description of everything there. I would say if you have any issues with the LSN you will know just about as SOON as you hit throttle. If it's after a few seconds it's the high speed.

    The idle should be fine unless it's dying on standstill or not standing still.

    On the low speed needle, I fully tightened my LSscrew in (the bigger gold one) and adjusted the one on the flange side. Becuase the Big gold one seemed loose. Loose enough that it would move from vibrations over time just from running it. If it ain't broke don't fix it but you may have to keep this in mind if you start having problems with it (unless you've already set it like I have with the big screw in and adjust the flange side)

    Let me know if yo ustill have confusion between the idle and LS.

    Finally - you can do ANYTHING on these. I had no idea what to do and the instructions are Sh*^t as far as exploded views, but between 2 cars I have now taken everything apart except the front and rear diffs and the shocks (the insides of the shocks themselves).

    I actually had a broken tooth on my main gear (ok 5 And so I had to take apart the mid diff and replace it and I took photos and will type up a tutorial for Darin to post also. Hopefully it should be up soon. But really you can easily tear these things apart down to screws and molded pieces and put them back together pretty easily. Just wait till it happens (the need for maintainence) and put in the resolve to get it done.

    Goold luck





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    RE: "OFFICIAL" Redcat Racing 1/8th BUGGY thre... - 2/13/2006 2:18:53 AM   
    Buggygovroom



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    You can register at the redcat site and put up your mods i believe. I signed up and used my rcu name and posted a pic or two

    oh and snow? mount a plow on your buggy!!!