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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 8:27 AM   
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after the Toledo show the plane will go straight to Robart and they will prepare a scale set of gear for the plane as a option.


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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 8:31 AM   
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Its quite early for predictions on color scheme



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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 8:47 AM   
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Except for one individual plane, all the Tigercats were painted either the navy blue, or flat black. They differed only in the numbers, and in some few cases they had nose art. This is, of course, for fighting planes. Some drone controllers and target tugs (yes, they did that too) were yellow and red in various combinations.

The one fighter version that was different was spotted, I think at Miramar, with green and white trim on the basic blue. Here's a picture. It also shows in the Squadron Signal book F7F Tigercat in Action.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bills isn't Big Bossman a really shiny black though? But then again, I've never seen an ARF that wasn't "shiny" so I guess if they make a black version then I'm already 98% there minus decals.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:36 AM   
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Bossman is the dark blue. Here's the largest picture I have of it, still a little hard to tell in the picture. But it gives a fairly good view of the nose art.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:40 AM   
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Sorry, RCU decreased the picture size when it loaded. The original is 2500 x 1629. If you would like the full size picture send me your email address and I'll send it.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:44 AM   
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:44 AM   
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:49 AM   
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The only black ones were flown in Korea.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:27 PM   
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:39 PM   
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That's another shot of "Bossman." You can see the blue if you lighten it up a little bit. You also can see the rear cockpit better when you do.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/24/2006 9:55 PM   
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I'll ask Flaps about the color. He flew both AD Skyraiders and radar equipped, F7F Tigercats in Korea. Of course, that's a long time back to remember.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/25/2006 6:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ed Moorman mentioned the F7F with radar - they were "Droop-Snoot" versions. And they were black, used as night fighters. Finally found a couple pictures, posted here. Note the "Goiter" under the chin.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/25/2006 7:45 AM   
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The stock color scheme will most likely be the dark navy blue. Thats the way the model is beeing prepared for the Toledo Show. I would like to get Mike Browns permission to do his Reno Racer (as we did for his Sea Fury). The all black reno racer may come out as a limited edition but this is still quite far down the road.

Yes, we will have a Cessna 185. I have the prototype pictures and will post them soon to the Sea Plane Forum. It will share the same floats that we use for our 8 foot DH-2 Beaver
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/25/2006 11:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Andrew,do you have any pictures at all of a pre-production aircraft? It would be nice to have something to drewl over here in sweden while were waiting for spring..By the way,are there someone from KMP that is going to visit nurnberg this year?
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/25/2006 11:46 PM   
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Eat your heart out.

This one does not have a scale nose strut. And it's blue.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/25/2006 11:58 PM   
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Here's one with a scale nose strut. Guess which particular plane it's painted to match? Of course it was done before Brown bought it, so it's not defaced with all the names below the canopy.

Another point - This model is the F7F-2, Brown's plane is an F7F-3. The vertical fin gives it away.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/26/2006 12:42 AM   
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could you please send me an aircraft now? Tomorrow is also OK...
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/26/2006 7:58 AM   
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Please rest assured that I will have the specs and some preproduction pictures posted to our web site very shortly. I would like to make the initial intro for the model on our website before posting here. My web guy is working diligently to get all the info sorted and posted. Rest assured that I will have a picture posted here as well. By the time I come back from Nurnberg Germany everything should be ready to post.
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/26/2006 8:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the models shown in your post is a F7F-3. As I remember, the tall tail was used on the -3's and -4's. The -1's and -2's used the short tail.

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The pic in post 56 appears to be the short tail while the pic in post 57 has the tall tail.


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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/27/2006 5:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Tigercat "Club" has always been fairly well exclusive. Now they are going to let just anybody in.

Drat.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/27/2006 8:18 AM   
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If anyone feels that we do not replicate the airplanes we chose to model with a great deal of accuracy then we would like to hear about the suggestion you may have to make it better. Thats what helps us make a better model. We are willing to modify molds to address these type of items. I am fully aware that some items are not perfectly to scale but many times it may be because of optimizing flight characteristics rather than looks. As I am sure you all know sometimes scaling down a model does not simply assure you of a stable flying model.

That being said it would help us more to receive a suggestion (constructive criticism) on how you would make the B-25 more detailed rather than a statement that it is "not scale at all" (which I would candidly have to disagree with).

On the subject of the F7F, we have worked very hard to offer a very realistic model. Remember that the production unit will have an all glass wing with the panel lines and rivet detail molded into it. I would challenge any other ARF company to produce something even close to its quality for the price we will offer it at.

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/27/2006 9:03 AM   
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Ok,, as you asked for suggestions,, here is one that should
make the 'purist' happy..
I want you to do the F7F in a TRUE 1/6 scale..
Given the specs of a fullscale below then followed by the
1/6 specs.

Length 46 feet 10 inches
Height 16 feet 7 inches
Maximum Take Off Weight 25,720 lbs
Wingspan 51 feet 6 inches
Maximum Speed 435 MPH


Length 93.6 inches
Height 33.16 inches
Maximum Take Off Weight 4286.6 lbs
Wingspan 103 inches
Maximum Speed 72 MPH

I don't think that is asking for much...
A 93" plane that weights 4000# and
does not excedes 72 mph..
Oh,, and I do expect ALL the airfoils
to be just as the full scale is...

You will have this plane ready for Toledo,, correct..?

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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/27/2006 9:13 AM   
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RE: New KMP Full Composite Twin coming soon! - 1/27/2006 9:59 AM   
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You KNOW you want one of these...

Toss that sucker into the back of the Mercedes
and cruise on over to the field..

It would have to fly like a reall pu$$y cat....
yeah, a cat toss'd out of the 14th floor window


yaaa, booyyyy..

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