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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 9:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you want to go for the truggy look you would only need the BX shock towers, BX shocks, BX front chassis brace, and the BX body. Actually you could probably get away with using the ST's shocks if you put some spacers in them to limit their length.

If you used the ST's stock shocks the total cost would only be something like $40 (I'm assuming the body is going to be about $25).


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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 5:09 PM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 5:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Guys, that's pretty much what I thought.
I've got a stock motor coming with the ST I bought and a spare 2 ch JR radio so I may just get the PRO BX (the one w/o radio, esc & motor) off Tower I should be able to get that and an esc for what the parts would cost to convert. Then I'd have 2 (well 3, I'm rebuilding an old RC10 too). You can never have too many rc's, can you???????

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 5:47 PM   
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just get another pro prebuilt off of tower....


That's probably the way I'll go.

I checked on Duratrax and tower. The have a conversion for the ST/BX to the Pro version and they want $89 for that. Why would anyone do that when the prebuilt is only $10 more??????

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 8:39 PM   
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just get another pro prebuilt off of tower....


That's probably the way I'll go.

I checked on Duratrax and tower. The have a conversion for the ST/BX to the Pro version and they want $89 for that. Why would anyone do that when the prebuilt is only $10 more??????




it doesn't make any since to me either cause the pre built even has wheels, tires, shocks and a complete tranny.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 9:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could some of you guys check your tranny to see how long it can freewheel with the pinion removed? (remove pinion, spin the wheels and see how long before they stop spinning)
I went to my LHS yesterday and the guy there said that it's good on 2wd buggies to have the tranny freewheel for 20-30s after a solid spin of the wheels (and the pinion removed of course to avoid motor brake).
I went home and tried it and my tranny only freewheels for about 2-3s.
Was he exagerating? Does the Evader tranny have more friction?
Is mine bound or not lubed enough?
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 10:42 PM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/8/2006 11:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		So according to the manual, the servo saver is only supposed to have the alum collar turned approx 1 and 1/2 turns on the servo saver shaft. I know for a fact mine is much tighter than this, but I havent experienced any problems. Am I just lucky? I would think that with the beating these trucks take, wouldnt 1 and 1/2 turns work itself right off?

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 12:32 AM   
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Could some of you guys check your tranny to see how long it can freewheel with the pinion removed? (remove pinion, spin the wheels and see how long before they stop spinning)
I went to my LHS yesterday and the guy there said that it's good on 2wd buggies to have the tranny freewheel for 20-30s after a solid spin of the wheels (and the pinion removed of course to avoid motor brake).
I went home and tried it and my tranny only freewheels for about 2-3s.
Was he exagerating? Does the Evader tranny have more friction?
Is mine bound or not lubed enough?
Thanks for checking and reporting your results.


I'd be glad if my tranny would spin for 10 seconds. I only get aroung 3 seconds also and my traddy has lubed bearings and gears. I think he was maybe exadurating. I would be very happy with 10+ seconds. My buggy gets around 4-5 seconds, but that's 1/6 of what the lhs dude said. Maybe on a custom racing tranny??

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 1:24 AM   
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So according to the manual, the servo saver is only supposed to have the alum collar turned approx 1 and 1/2 turns on the servo saver shaft. I know for a fact mine is much tighter than this, but I havent experienced any problems. Am I just lucky? I would think that with the beating these trucks take, wouldnt 1 and 1/2 turns work itself right off?





Mine was the same way. I loosened the nut but the next time I hit some thing it still stipped out the servo. Personally I have not had any luck with the servo saver at all so after stripping the 2nd one in less than a month I wrote back to DuraTrax and they sent me a metal gear servo, free.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 4:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		To set the servo saver right for a plastic gear servo I had to put locktite on the nut and just barely screw it on.

If screwed on far enough to keep the nut from coming loose the servo saver was too tight and the servo would get stripped, when it was set right the nut would loosen up and come off after a few runs.

That said, I only stripped one servo in my evader ST, and I never ran a metal gear one in it (once I got the servo saver set right I ran the same plastic gear servo for over 6 months).


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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 4:55 AM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 4:57 AM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 5:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		awwww, that's all?? So i guess i'll just go with a nice 13t instead of getting a bunch of nice electronics just to see a few mph gain. what about a checkpoint or cobalt 13t running on 7-8 cells? Would that at least hit 32-3?

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 5:05 AM   
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To set the servo saver right for a plastic gear servo I had to put locktite on the nut and just barely screw it on.

If screwed on far enough to keep the nut from coming loose the servo saver was too tight and the servo would get stripped, when it was set right the nut would loosen up and come off after a few runs.

That said, I only stripped one servo in my evader ST, and I never ran a metal gear one in it (once I got the servo saver set right I ran the same plastic gear servo for over 6 months).





After stripping the second servo I took it all apart and even with the nut off it still would not turn like it is supposed to. It's like the channel in the bottom of it locks to tight, maybe if it were rounded some instead of the sharp edges? I gave up and got a metal gear servo so hopefully the problem is solved (I hope).

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 5:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I need speed because i'm sick of my tamiya rising storm with a 15 dollar 27t motor absoloutly inialating the evader with a 19t. It's only using a 19t pinion and 6 cells.Nobody believes me at how fast that thing is. It's almost insane.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 5:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		looks like my evader is going to go to rc heaven (selling on ebay ) my new st is much better

unless someone can give me a reason that i should keep somthing that breaks all the time and is slow even with a 11t motor in it

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 6:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tamiyacrawler, it makes me feel a little better to see that I'm not the only one with a tranny freewheeling for 2-3s only. However, at the beginning of the post you say 3s then later you say your buggy gets 4-5s. Do you have 2 evaders? A ST and a BX?
Concerning your tamiya going so fast, what is the 27t motor you put in it? What battery do you use on it? Sport or nice pack?
Anything in particular you would attribute the extra speed to?
Have you tried moving that same motor and battery combination to the Evader? I'd be VERY interested in seeing how they compare then.
I have an Evader BX now but at the beginning of my search, I was actually looking at the Rising storm for its 4wd capability.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 6:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		The servo saver spring is way too stiff. If you cut some of it off, about half, it helps a lot. Also, as Raz said, the points lock a little too tight. If you do round them a little you will see better results too. You can do all that stuff but you can get metal gear servos for pretty cheap which also give better performance.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/9/2006 11:58 PM   
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Tamiyacrawler, it makes me feel a little better to see that I'm not the only one with a tranny freewheeling for 2-3s only. However, at the beginning of the post you say 3s then later you say your buggy gets 4-5s. Do you have 2 evaders? A ST and a BX?
Concerning your tamiya going so fast, what is the 27t motor you put in it? What battery do you use on it? Sport or nice pack?
Anything in particular you would attribute the extra speed to?
Have you tried moving that same motor and battery combination to the Evader? I'd be VERY interested in seeing how they compare then.
I have an Evader BX now but at the beginning of my search, I was actually looking at the Rising storm for its 4wd capability.


My buggy is a rising storm and it's 4wd, but the tranny is simple and quite smooth. All it is is a spur the axle for 4wd and the front and rear diffs. There's barely any gear on gear and besides the spur, the gears are all metal. I think the only thing possible making it fast is good brushes, a fresh cleaning, i've soldered on the brushes and leads instead of everything snapping and screwing on. It's a tower hobbies speed stocker. I've put it through 30+ runs with no comm cut, so with a fresh comm it would probably be even better.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/10/2006 2:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		So your rising storm tranny freewheels for 4-5s and the Evader about 3s, is that correct?
I still think you should try that speed stocker in the evader and see how fast it runs then. With equal motor and batteries, I don't see how the Rising storm could be quicker than the Evader. BTW, is that evader a BX or ST?
And what battery are you currently using on the Rising storm?

If anyone wants to try the freewheel test on tranny (remove pinion and hand spin the wheels), I'd really like to have some inputs from a few extra Evader users.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/10/2006 2:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have an evader st and am running sport packs. I have tried that motor in the evader with 22/88 gearing and it was crazy, but overgeared. Actually, to think about it, i was doing bananced wheelies, so i guess in a 2wd it has quite a bit of power,too.

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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/10/2006 5:05 AM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/10/2006 5:19 AM   
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RE: The Evader Coalition - T.E.C. - 2/10/2006 7:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am pretty sure that tower has clawz for the xxt or the xxxt. Wouldn't those work better than the ones for the traxxas or t3? I would think the xxt ones would be a perfect fit. But I don't know that much. Just a thought though.

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