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RE: Impact - 11/8/2007 3:10 AM

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Hi Kjell

How does the Impact compare to the Integral for flight characteristics flying F3A schedules. I have over 400 flights on my model and still going strong with DZ160. I am in the process of purchasing the Comp ARF Integral.

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Peter

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RE: Impact - 11/8/2007 11:15 AM

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Hi Kjell

How does the Impact compare to the Integral for flight characteristics flying F3A schedules. I have over 400 flights on my model and still going strong with DZ160. I am in the process of purchasing the Comp ARF Integral.

Regards,

Peter

Keen to read more on this comparison as well ! ! I have read on the "Integral kinda build" thread (I think) where an owner of both said while the Impact was a great model, the Integral is a "step up".

I have an Impact nearly ready (should be flying in the next 2-3 weeks) and have an Integral due for arrival mid December, so expect to have that ready in January . . so will be able to do my OWN comparison and will report my findings

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RE: Impact - 11/8/2007 2:13 PM

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Hi,

...The two flyers ( impact & Integral ) are very different in many aspect ... I will try to give my personal experience about those two, and i will also remind that i need much more time to get proper known to the Integral, since this one demands much more of me ...

Generally;
The Impact is easier to fly the P- schedules, while the Integral have a higher potential and would do the F-schedule-manouvers better.

I would take the chance to say that for the P- schedules (and lower class-programs ) the Impact would make it easier to get a higher score.

The Integral is a typhical F-schedules plane, and in the hand of a high-comp pilot, it wouldn`t dissapoint the best. The potential is "all the way to the top."

Detajl;
The Integral is much more responsive than the impact, and it really challenge you in most aspect. In some situations you feel like you are flying a tail-heavy plane ,and at the same time; feels quite normal in others ...

I like my planes to the "nose-heavy-side" if possible ,without suffer to much in other situation. The benefit are as known ; nice lines and track, predictable ,nice "lock-on" feeling and a generally nice display.This work very well on the Impact, without suffer too much, and at the same time; there are no coupling`s to worrie about.

The Integral is quite different, and it comes to a point where it refuse this forward CG position in many manouvers ; make it harder to draw nice lines , track ,and generally the basic situations.
This is all new for me, and in fact, i need to think different while setting everything up, and get use to the flying characteristic. The benefit comes when performing the higher level manouvers, which also have a higher K-factor score ... A typhical example is the snap`s: really nice and crispy with a perfect timing. The Impact is not even close to this to be honest ...

Summary:
Everything is a compromise, and you have to choose what suit you best . Both planes have their advantages/disadvantages compared to eachother and it`s all up to what you prefer, and your strategy in the competions ...

Hope this help
Kjell Olav

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RE: Impact - 12/26/2007 11:49 AM

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Kjell,

Which would you choose in strong wind? Impact or Integral?

Thanks, Jeff

PS. did you fly the Integral at the World Champs?

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RE: Impact - 12/27/2007 12:27 AM

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Hi Jeff,

In fact i am suprised how well these two handle`s strong winds .. from all directions ...
Both are "equal" if i had to pick one of them what wind concern.

The difference between these two, as far i have experienced ; is in crosswind the Impact put it`s nose against the wind, and "almost" keep the track by itself , while the Integral is more like drifting sideways. This difference in behaviour is quite ok, and is more a matter of liking.

I did not qualify for the WC ; But we are a gang of buddies that are in an offensive position now !

Kjell Olav

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